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    Default TG4 last night, lettermacward civil war killings.

    Brilliant docudrama last night. Covered civil war killing of guy who joined free state army after war of independence. Shot dead in barracks in Creeslough, free state ordered execution of 4 anti treatyites who were not involved in that killing as they were in custody at the time. Raw still years later, but very well done. Apologies if spellings of place names are not correct.

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    Lettermacaward. But you got Creeslough right

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricket View Post
    Brilliant docudrama last night. Covered civil war killing of guy who joined free state army after war of independence. Shot dead in barracks in Creeslough, free state ordered execution of 4 anti treatyites who were not involved in that killing as they were in custody at the time. Raw still years later, but very well done. Apologies if spellings of place names are not correct.
    It's actually Leitir Mac An Bhaird. Locals would generally just refer to it as Leitir even though Irish isn't that strong there anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwin View Post
    It's actually Leitir Mac An Bhaird. Locals would generally just refer to it as Leitir even though Irish isn't that strong there anymore.
    It's Lettermacaward in English and Leitir Mac An Bhaird in Irish. Neither is more 'actual' than the other, and it is linguistic snobbery to pretend that this is not so.
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    Big question is: did the reprisal killings by the FS shorten the war? Going by Liam Deasy's memoirs of the CW, seemed that it did, but at same time it left a legacy of bitterness between former comrades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edwin View Post
    It's actually Leitir Mac An Bhaird. Locals would generally just refer to it as Leitir even though Irish isn't that strong there anymore.
    Its actually Leitir Mhic an Bhaird in Gaeilge - check logainm.ie - Bunachar Logainmneacha na hÉireann - Placenames Database of Ireland. But as statsman says Lettermacaward is just as actual as Leitir Mhic an Bhaird.

    I agree that the documentary was brilliant - lovely narration I thought.

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    TG4 make some great documentaries, it's a pity the other local stations couldnt do better with the resources they have

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    Quote Originally Posted by statsman View Post
    It's Lettermacaward in English and Leitir Mac An Bhaird in Irish. Neither is more 'actual' than the other, and it is linguistic snobbery to pretend that this is not so.
    Incorrect. Try serving a legal notice to someone in Lettermacaward and see what happens. The law is quite clear that only Irish place names apply in the Gaeltacht. Whether you agree or not is irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edwin View Post
    Incorrect. Try serving a legal notice to someone in Lettermacaward and see what happens. The law is quite clear that only Irish place names apply in the Gaeltacht. Whether you agree or not is irrelevant.
    But this is not a court of law; we are engaged in interpersonal discourse of a kind, and I reserve the right to do so in my native tongue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrightDay View Post
    Its actually Leitir Mhic an Bhaird in Gaeilge - check logainm.ie - Bunachar Logainmneacha na hÉireann - Placenames Database of Ireland. But as statsman says Lettermacaward is just as actual as Leitir Mhic an Bhaird.

    I agree that the documentary was brilliant - lovely narration I thought.
    Point taken on correct Irish spelling. People with gaeltacht Irish often have poor grammar unfortunately.

    You are however incorrect on the English version. Under the law that place does not exist so is no more 'actual' than Hades.

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