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    Interesting article on how the left in Britain has helped create an anti- free speech Police state, with people jailed for things such as posting messages on facebook or wearing offending tee-shirts, such laws are also used to clamp down on legitimate protests and free speech.

    One of the major reasons for this is that in Britain the working class no longer play a part in left politics, the left is now a middle class affair, hence the collaboration with the state.


    A police state created by ‘anti-fascists’ | Patrick Hayes | spiked


    Given that the key thing about twentieth-century fascism was its extreme authoritarianism, you might reasonably expect those who describe themselves as ‘anti-fascist’ to be anti-authoritarian. You might imagine that these campaigners, more than most, would know the dangers of giving the state too much power and trusting it to determine who may speak and who may not, who is a ‘decent’ person and who is not.


    The modern anti-fascist left has provided plenty of justification for increased state control over political to and fro in modern Britain. It has strengthened the use of public-order laws over political freedom, and it has empowered the state to govern all forms of political speech. That control extends not just to the statements and actions of ‘fascist’ groups, but also to the statements and actions of left-wing groups and anti-fascists, too.

    That anti-fascists now take it upon themselves to ensure the law is being enforced, shows the extent to which the left have become an unofficial arm of the state. They have become squealers, the state’s eyes and ears, cheering on the state to intervene.


    Excellent analysis

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=lVjtK1_OtsE


    The censorious fools on the left wanting to ban everything they disagree with are a far bigger danger to freedom then the knuckle dragging far right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polaris555 View Post
    Interesting article on how the left in Britain has helped create an anti- free speech Police state, with people jailed for things such as posting messages on facebook or wearing offending tee-shirts, such laws are also used to clamp down on legitimate protests and free speech.

    One of the major reasons for this is that in Britain the working class no longer play a part in left politics, the left is now a middle class affair, hence the collaboration with the state.


    A police state created by ‘anti-fascists’ | Patrick Hayes | spiked


    Given that the key thing about twentieth-century fascism was its extreme authoritarianism, you might reasonably expect those who describe themselves as ‘anti-fascist’ to be anti-authoritarian. You might imagine that these campaigners, more than most, would know the dangers of giving the state too much power and trusting it to determine who may speak and who may not, who is a ‘decent’ person and who is not.


    The modern anti-fascist left has provided plenty of justification for increased state control over political to and fro in modern Britain. It has strengthened the use of public-order laws over political freedom, and it has empowered the state to govern all forms of political speech. That control extends not just to the statements and actions of ‘fascist’ groups, but also to the statements and actions of left-wing groups and anti-fascists, too.

    That anti-fascists now take it upon themselves to ensure the law is being enforced, shows the extent to which the left have become an unofficial arm of the state. They have become squealers, the state’s eyes and ears, cheering on the state to intervene.



    Totalitarianism is a creature of the left unfortunately. There is still a tendency to force people to be good.

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    We can't even get the cops to catch criminals here, never mind thought criminals.

    Look at Limerick ffs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanie Lemass View Post
    Totalitarianism is a creature of the left unfortunately. There is still a tendency to force people to be good.
    not very robust, better to say that Totalitarianism is a creature of Statism.

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    I musnt not know my left from my right. Not that it matters, the left right divide means nothing and most people have wildly different ideas of what each constitutes of politically.

    So just so I have this straight....Previous lefties become righties.
    And therefore, the newly increased in numbers on the 'right' are not to blame for pushing thier own agenda, because they used to be part of the 'left'....

    How does that work? Seriously??!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dylan2010 View Post
    not very robust, better to say that Totalitarianism is a creature of Statism.



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    I was listening to the historian Laurence Rees on Pat Kenny's show recently. He made an interesting point about the election in Germany in 1932:more than 50% of voters chose parties that avowedly opposed democracy, i.e. over 50% voted for the Nazis or for the Communist Party.

    I think there is a very common tendency, for people on the Left and for those on the Right, to look to the State to deal with things they find objectionable; the trouble is that once you do that, the natural thing is to expect the State to step in the next time some person or problem confronts the individual. Thru small steps, the State becomes the arbiter of what's acceptable and the solver of problems for citizens.

    It's worth remembering that the freedom that the odious Phelps family in the US enjoys is an unfortunate consequence of free speech; but the alternative, having the State rule that their opinions are beyond the Pale and must be kept from being expressed, is a far worse proposition.

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    The anti-fascists are tools of the Jews. The police state is intertwined with the race replacement of the English people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScreeOrTalus View Post
    The anti-fascists are tools of the Jews. The police state is intertwined with the race replacement of the English people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Analyzer View Post
    We can't even get the cops to catch criminals here, never mind thought criminals.

    Look at Limerick ffs

    Never mind Limerick look at Leinster house.

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