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    Anti-Deportation Ireland launch « Consider the Tea Cosy

    Was reading this from earlier on in the month. It lays out in what I believe to be very clear language the dilemma facing asylum seekers here, who because of the constant threat of deportation and the system of direct provision are not afforded the same rights we have come to expect as human beings.

    It seems we have two classes of personhood in this State. If we make the assertion, as we often do, that we have a collective respect for the rights of humans, when how can we allow people who come here fleeing some of the worst regimes in the world to be treated this way? We deny them education, certainty, community, privacy and security - we even deny them the possibility of working and contributing in our State.

    Surely this situation cannot continue. Surely we cannot condone the taking of children from their beds in the middle of the night for the purposes of deportation? Surely we cannot tolerate the State degrading human beings into a sub-human category, and treating them as such?

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    Country is broke...we can hardly sustain human "rights" for our own without pretending we can provide for others. Let's see where we are in 5 years and maybe then consider this.
    The more things change....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned democrat View Post
    Country is broke...we can hardly sustain human "rights" for our own without pretending we can provide for others. Let's see where we are in 5 years and maybe then consider this.
    We're already providing for them while they wait for the decision, and this can take years - years where we have to pay for their hostel use etc. Surely it would be less of a burden to let them try to find work or education - presumably if successful they will be paying taxes instead of languishing on a sub-human asylum system...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concerned Irishman View Post
    Anti-Deportation Ireland launch « Consider the Tea Cosy

    Was reading this from earlier on in the month. It lays out in what I believe to be very clear language the dilemma facing asylum seekers here, who because of the constant threat of deportation and the system of direct provision are not afforded the same rights we have come to expect as human beings.

    It seems we have two classes of personhood in this State. If we make the assertion, as we often do, that we have a collective respect for the rights of humans, when how can we allow people who come here fleeing some of the worst regimes in the world to be treated this way? We deny them education, certainty, community, privacy and security - we even deny them the possibility of working and contributing in our State.

    Surely this situation cannot continue. Surely we cannot condone the taking of children from their beds in the middle of the night for the purposes of deportation? Surely we cannot tolerate the State degrading human beings into a sub-human category, and treating them as such?
    Perhaps we should concentrate on ending the forced deportation of up to 100, 000 of our young people every year by order of inda and the blueshirts first ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concerned Irishman View Post
    We're already providing for them while they wait for the decision, and this can take years - years where we have to pay for their hostel use etc. Surely it would be less of a burden to let them try to find work or education - presumably if successful they will be paying taxes instead of languishing on a sub-human asylum system...
    Or we could just speed up the deportation process, and not waste everyone's time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concerned Irishman View Post
    We're already providing for them while they wait for the decision, and this can take years - years where we have to pay for their hostel use etc. Surely it would be less of a burden to let them try to find work or education - presumably if successful they will be paying taxes instead of languishing on a sub-human asylum system...
    No, it would be less of a burden to rent a few ships and send these bullsh1tters home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritzbox View Post
    Or we could just speed up the deportation process, and not waste everyone's time.
    Exactly right....if the do-gooders would leave well enough alone and let the process work we wouldn't be taking so long.
    The more things change....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tirnacrann View Post
    Perhaps we should concentrate on ending the forced deportation of up to 100, 000 of our young people every year by order of inda and the blueshirts first ?
    Why do I need to be in favour of the mass emigration of our young people due to economic circumstances to be against our flawed and racist asylum system? It's a false dichotomy. People trapped in the asylum system can help aid our economic recovery

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concerned Irishman View Post
    Why do I need to be in favour of the mass emigration of our young people due to economic circumstances to be against our flawed and racist asylum system? It's a false dichotomy. People trapped in the asylum system can help aid our economic recovery
    Sure they can, by going home.
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