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Thread: Labour supporters (86%) losing faith/disillusioned : how can it stop its free fall?

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    Default Labour supporters (86%) losing faith/disillusioned : how can it stop its free fall?

    The most recent red c poll shows labour on 13% - which is rather meaningless on its own as demonstrating a crisis in the party.

    Underneath that, is the rather startling statistic that only 14% of it supporters state they are loyal to the party (ie definitely vote for them in the next election). 52% of labour voters are becoming disillusioned, while 34% are losing faith with the party. That is a very flaky/unhappy support base (many might vote labour again but it is far from certain).

    So what can be done?
    - ditch Gilmore
    - actually govern in line with the constitution ie collectively, rather than retreating into their own departments
    - review the PfG to prioritise labour policies
    - legislate for civil marriage equality and abortion (in line with x) immediately to at least demonstrate their commitment to socially progressive policies
    - generation shift by pension ing off Rabitte, Quinn
    - change the electoral system to a list based one so they do not suffer a pr stv wipeout
    - lower the voting age to 16, bringing in 100,000 new voters who are more likely to vote for them
    - demand Reilly is sacked
    - burn the senior bondholders
    - take the average industrial wage and only vouched expenses
    - actually keep its election promises?*

    Which of the above are possible, or even desirable?

    What can labour actually do to restore the faith if their own supporters, as well as gain new ones?



    * note the question mark, it signifies that a question is asked rather than constituting advice.
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    Some amount of sh1te in that OP.

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    Get rid of Gilmore, Rabbitte and Quinn.

    Don't make promises they can't/won't keep.

    Become a socialist party or stop pretending they are.
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    Labour needs to be the party of working people. That should be everyone who works for a living. There are plenty of attention grabbing, virtually revenue neutral, policies we could propose.

    A tax deduction for child care should be top of the list. Reform the dole to make it easier to take short term work. Better public transport.

    Focus policies on making work easier and more rewarding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Con Gallagher View Post

    Underneath that, is the rather startling statistic that only 12% of it supporters state they will vote for them in the next election.
    I think if you look at it again, it doesn't actually say that. You need to be careful in polls, not to think you're seeing the answers to questions that weren't asked.

    - actually keep its election promises?
    The funny thing is that most of the other stuff you suggested Labour do were NOT Labour election promises.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvar88 View Post
    Some amount of sh1te in that OP.
    Would it be safe to assume you're a loyal FG supporter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Con Gallagher View Post
    Would it be safe to assume you're a loyal FG supporter?
    It would be safer to assume he's a pr!ck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Con Gallagher View Post
    Would it be safe to assume you're a loyal FG supporter?
    Yes I do support FG.

    So I don't really care what happens to labour though I do not detest them like I do SF and FF. You are no Labour supporter. Quite the opposite in fact. So I do not know why anyone would give a toss about your opinion on what they should do.

    Also your suggestions were absolutely terrible. Some of the worst ideas I have ever seen. Well done on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hewson View Post
    It would be safer to assume he's a pr!ck.
    Haha, Some man.

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    Labour are like an old stage prop taken out now and again, dusted down and used in a production that flops and thrown back to gather dust again. FG really are the same but they always had B actors that carried a production for a month instead of the two months expected
    People demonise Fianna Fail and they are entitled to do so but same people are not capable of answering a few awkward questions themselves.

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