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    Default Which Facts/statistics reflect the true position of Ireland (and which the new Ireland Stat project will ignore)

    New site to measure Govt's performance | Irish Examiner

    The government is to launch a new website with a few key statistics to show well Ireland is performing and reflect where Ireland is.

    Are there any stats you think should be included? (But won't)

    An epidemic of abuse
    Lifetime Experience of Sexual Abuse and Assault
    Women: More than four in ten (42 per cent) of women re- ported some form of sexual abuse or assault in their lifetime. The most serious form of abuse, penetrative abuse, was ex- perienced by 10 per cent of women. Attempted penetration or contact abuse was experienced by 21 per cent, with a further 10 per cent experiencing non-contact abuse.
    Men: Over a quarter of men (28 per cent) reported some form of sexual abuse or assault in their lifetime. Penetrative abuse was experienced by 3 per cent of men. Attempted penetration or contact abuse was experienced by 18 per cent, with a fur- ther 7 per cent experiencing non-contact abuse"
    SAVI report - Dublin Rape Crisis Centre

    Treatment of minorities
    One of the key findings is that Travellers of all ages continue to have much higher mortality rates than people in the general population, with Traveller men now living on average 15 years less than men in the general population and Traveller women living on average 11.5 years less than women in the general population.

    Deaths from respiratory diseases, cardiovascular diseases and suicides were more markedly increased in Travellers compared to the general population. The suicide rates among Traveller men were identified as 7 times higher than suicide rates among men in the general population.
    UCD News - Shorter life expectancy and higher suicide rates among Travellers, study shows

    The national debt
    DebtClock.ie | Ireland's Debt Clock
    130,434,900,000.00

    The average student in Ireland scored 497 in reading literacy, maths and sciences, in line with the OECD average. On average, girls outperformed boys by 12 points, more than the average OECD gap of 9 points.
    The best-performing school systems manage to provide high-quality education to all students . In Ireland, the average difference in results, between the top 20% and bottom 20%, is of 88 points, lower than the OECD average of 99 points. This suggests the school system in Ireland provides relatively equal access to high-quality education.
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    Nigh have been nice if you linked to the site in question:

    Ireland Stat - Home

    I see nothing wrong with this initiative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren84 View Post
    Nigh have been nice if you linked to the site in question:

    Ireland Stat - Home

    I see nothing wrong with this initiative.
    I didn't say there was anything wrong with the site (the cso is difficult to get around). But I was asking what statistics, though important, would never be included on it.

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    Stats ---stats - lies and more lies. Spin and more spin. There is not an organisation in the Country that can be trusted. If this lesson has not been learnt in the last few years, we are heading for more of the same in the future. In recent years, we have been lied to and mislead by all our major organisations, thats wy we are where we are.

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    Poverty in Ireland
    Combat Poverty - Who is poor in Ireland today?


    At Risk of Poverty Consistent Poverty
    Total Population 14.1% 5.5%
    Lone Parents

    35.5%
    16.6%
    Unemployed People

    24.8%
    11.5%
    Ill or Disabled People

    21.7%
    8.8%
    Children (0-17)
    18.6%
    8.7%
    Older People (65-74)

    8.9%
    1.3%
    Older People (75+)


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1016/stu...d-poverty.html
    - Not being able to afford a meal with meat, or a vegetarian equivalent, every second day.
    - Not being able to afford a weekly roast dinner.
    - Missing a meal over a two-week period, due to a lack of money.
    The research shows that in 2010, 10% of people questioned for a CSO Survey on Income and Living Conditions experienced at least one of these factors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lying eyes View Post
    Stats ---stats - lies and more lies. Spin and more spin. There is not an organisation in the Country that can be trusted. If this lesson has not been learnt in the last few years, we are heading for more of the same in the future. In recent years, we have been lied to and mislead by all our major organisations, thats wy we are where we are.
    Should I take this personally?

    A proper measure of school and college drop-out rates would be interesting.
    Put a thief among honest men and they will eventually relieve him of his watch. Flann O'Brien

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    Looking forward to getting time on the new site. Unlike the cynics I believe a lot of life is about figures. If there are wild stats being thrown out it wont be long before they are exposed
    People demonise Fianna Fail and they are entitled to do so but same people are not capable of answering a few awkward questions themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by statsman View Post
    Should I take this personally?

    A proper measure of school and college drop-out rates would be interesting.
    5% for secondary level
    http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/62/3/48630687.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Con Gallagher View Post
    Yes, but why? Where? In which year? Does TY have a bearing? Where do they go? How many return to school within 1, 3, 5 years? Never?

    We need to work harder to ensure that everyone gets at least an adequate education; this data would help target interventions.
    Put a thief among honest men and they will eventually relieve him of his watch. Flann O'Brien

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    At a glance....
    The number of people in work fell to 1.821 million since 2010, while those unemployed rose 3.7% to 304,500.

    Figures revealed recipients of Jobseeker’s Supports soared by 161.4% between 2003 and 2011, while the number receiving illness, disability and caring payments rose by 37.1%.

    For those in work, annual average earnings for 2011 were €35,924 across all economic sectors, a decrease of less than €200.

    But the greatest drops in average weekly earnings were recorded in the construction (-13.4%) and the arts, entertainment, recreation and other service activities (-12.7%) sectors

    A staggering 23% of people had hit the deprivation rate by 2010 and were experiencing two or more types of poverty.

    Most of the data in the yearbook has already been revealed in publications around Census 2011, when the population was recorded as almost 4.6 million – but 5.5 million mobile phones were registered.

    There were 74,650 births registered last year, with Jack and Emily the most popular babies’ names.

    There were fewer gardai, fewer new cars registered, and the number of planning permissions fell by a quarter, but more than a third of adults had college education.

    Elsewhere, figures showed inflation rose by 2.6% in 2011 while the General Government Balance was in deficit by more than €20m, down from a record deficit of some €48m a year earlier.

    But on the plus side, exports for 2011 rose 4% to 92,936 million, while imports were up 5% to €48,238m.

    “This resulted in a trade surplus of €44,697m (+3%), the highest annual surplus on record,” the CSO added.
    CSO yearbook reveals austerity Ireland | BreakingNews.ie

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