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Thread: Map of Cork during the Tan War etc...

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    Default Map of Cork during the Tan War etc...

    I hope I am not overstepping the bounds in setting up a thread based on an existing one on Cedar Lounge Revolution relating to an interactive map of actions/incidents in Cork (city and county) during the Tan War/Anglo-Irish War/War of Independence.

    https://cedarlounge.wordpress.com/20...-independence/

    The only comment there (to date) is also very interesting:

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    the probelm with this is that it defines the WOI purely in terms of engegements- read sean healyís witness statement and he describes buliding an intercept station in a dugout to tap telegraph wires used by crown forces- doesnt fit eassily into ambush chronology- or where do you put the activities of jisephine marchmont brown typist supervisor in a military barracks who kept extra carbon copies for IRA intelligence?
    Mods: if I have overstepped the bounds, please let me know and I will edit accordingly. Cheers

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    A bump for another good formerly midnight thread !!
    "What Michael Collins accepted in '22,De Valera accepted in'27 and Gerry Adams accepted in '98.Sooner or later they all come around to accepting the Treaty"

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    Very good idea. But as regards telling the full story of the WoI it misses out an important element by not counting the shooting of informers and alleged informers. Also stopping at the truce tells only part of the story. It's not good only including the parts we're comfortable talking about.

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    It's imperfect, but a good start.

    They're still working on the Kerry one.
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    Very interesting. Would be pretty cool to see one for the country as a whole - a massive undertaking though.
    itís the continuing series of small tragedies, that send a man to the, madhouse

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    Dunmanway seemed to be very quiet .
    "What Michael Collins accepted in '22,De Valera accepted in'27 and Gerry Adams accepted in '98.Sooner or later they all come around to accepting the Treaty"

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    Ah the good old IRA never shot anybody

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    Quote Originally Posted by former wesleyan View Post
    Dunmanway seemed to be very quiet .
    If one was being mischievous, one could point out that perhaps Dunmanway was not the safest place to operate given the perception of the area as that of a 'loyalist' stronghold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeamusNapoleon View Post
    If one was being mischievous, one could point out that perhaps Dunmanway was not the safest place to operate given the perception of the area as that of a 'loyalist' stronghold.


    But according to Kathleen Keyes McDonnell in There Was A Bridge At Bandon they had no trouble visiting one of those loyalists in the middle of the night, questioning him, and then killing him.
    "What Michael Collins accepted in '22,De Valera accepted in'27 and Gerry Adams accepted in '98.Sooner or later they all come around to accepting the Treaty"

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    Quote Originally Posted by former wesleyan View Post


    But according to Kathleen Keyes McDonnell in There Was A Bridge At Bandon they had no trouble visiting one of those loyalists in the middle of the night, questioning him, and then killing him.
    According to the selective history books of wesley >> murder twas always most crude & foul when done by them Irish.
    But always romantic & heroic when carried out by unquestioning loyal servants of his heirloom past empire.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnD66 View Post
    It's not good only including the parts we're comfortable talking about.
    Does not every nation romanticize & gloss over blood & guts.
    Do not all national war memorials portray heroic honorable heroes.

    You are imagining a Irish specific >> like many another here, probably encouraged by headline makers who were looking to sell their books.
    The obvious general reality of humanity and war (any war) is >> it is all just a load of history. Apart from the living victims, no one really gives a f about any past war, anywhere.
    No more real or relevant than a movie.

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