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    Default Lovers' tiff as SF accuses unionists of living in a time warp.

    Last week the DUP's Peter Robinson did a little electioneering for the SDLP, claiming they had a the 'ability to unnerve' SF. He went further poking fun at SF and its lack of backbone in the assembly claiming:

    'Too often Alex Attwood's position one day is Sinn Fein's the next, time and time again the SDLP takes a stance that Sinn Fein lacks the courage to oppose.'

    This one must have hurt as not only was the SDLP stance the opposite of the DUP's in regards to the 'Welfare Reforms', SF has come in for big criticism within nationalist circles for not signing the Petition of Concern to kill the bill it such vehemently claimed to oppose. Indeed, many SF posters on this forum seem to be tongue tied on the matter.

    Now it's SF's turn to return the serve, Declan Kearney has accused the DUP of dragging it's heals on its murky past, including the role of Ulster Resistance, its ties to the UDA and Brian Nelson's arms issue. This is a point yet to be properly addressed by the DUP and it wont go away. He went on:

    'Their contributions sit in stark juxtaposition to the involvement of DUP politicians in Ulster Resistance, its documented role in importing weapons later sold to the UDA, with the support of several British agents, not just Brian Nelson, and, subsequently used in multiple sectarian and political assassinations during the 1980s and 1990s'.

    He added the DUP should start doing 'grown up politics'. Kearney outlined how far NI has come and it was impossible for Robinson to become 'a latter day James Craig or Basil Brooke, because the Orange State has gone'. (Or, perhaps that should be diluted, Declan). Robinson's comments seemed to have hit a nerve within SF circles, and the usually calm and collected public face had a few home truths for unionists as he went to say:

    'The Orange Order and loyalist bands cannot walk wherever they want; the 11 Plus isn't coming back; minorities do have rights; and nationalists in the north are no longer second class citizens'.

    The event was hosted by West Belfast MP Paul Maskey in the Grand Committee Room at W.M. and was also attended by John Alderdice, Conservative Peer, ex-Eton, Bobsledder Robin Dixon and former Under Secretary of State Angela Smith.
    BBC News - Sinn Fein: DUP needs to grow up
    'Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness'.

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    What I found funny was Kearney whining that Unionist Councils won't "Share Power" - hardly surprising when we see how SF handle shared power in the Assembly - step forward and take a bow Conor Murphy!

    Sinn Féin chairman calls on unionists to share power - The Irish Times - Thu, Oct 25, 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    What I found funny was Kearney whining that Unionist Councils won't "Share Power" - hardly surprising when we see how SF handle shared power in the Assembly - step forward and take a bow Conor Murphy!

    Sinn Féin chairman calls on unionists to share power - The Irish Times - Thu, Oct 25, 2012
    Well, two can play that game Cruimh, a fact you know very well.



    Anyway, back to the lovers' tiff.
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    There is a phoney war being declared as both sides are worried that the electorate will punish them for the coziness at Stormont. Sf particularly are vulnerable to this accusation, and the running with the hare and hunting with the hounds on the Welfare Bill does not wash.
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    For unionism this is as good as it gets, for nationalism this is the worse it can be.

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    Just another point - since when was the 11 Plus a nationalist/unionist issue/ I want the 11 Plus and so do the majority of nationalist parents I know. SF trying to frame an argument that they are having difficulty with?
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    as for the claim on an orange state - these guys still have a public holiday to facilitate their walks of hate. SF are just trying to deflect from the house training they have recieved
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    Mere bluster; Peter Robinson is a man Nationalists can do business with. Indeed, he's probably the best leader NI has yet had in its torturous existence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theloner View Post
    Well, two can play that game Cruimh, a fact you know very well.



    Anyway, back to the lovers' tiff.
    Not sure how they equate.

    But an impressive difference in media coverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtyisBack View Post
    There is a phoney war being declared as both sides are worried that the electorate will punish them for the coziness at Stormont. Sf particularly are vulnerable to this accusation, and the running with the hare and hunting with the hounds on the Welfare Bill does not wash.
    Exactly and because they are bowing down to Westminster's dictates at all times as in the welfare 'reform' issue. It suits them to play tough when in reality they are play dough in London's hands. This is simply eye candy for the masses to distract from the issues which are really hurting the public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdaly View Post
    Exactly and because they are bowing down to Westminster's dictates at all times as in the welfare 'reform' issue. It suits them to play tough when in reality they are play dough in London's hands. This is simply eye candy for the masses to distract from the issues which are really hurting the public.
    It is no coincidence that Gerry has been referendum rattling.

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