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    Default Best help for disadvantaged communities is early childhood education according to Nobel Laureate Heckman

    See Boston Review — James J. Heckman: Promoting Social Mobility

    Heckman's research provides convincing arguments that early childhood education yields excellent results for disadvantaged communities in contrast to interventions at a later age,such as remedial education for teenagers,adult literacy programmes and rehabilitation for prisoners. Quality of parenting,not just low incomes,deserves more attention in the assessment of childhood disadvantage.

    Despite hard economic times,it would be extremely harmful to Irish society if the government were to cut support for early childhood education for the disadvantaged. We don't want to emulate the US where figures for Hispanic and AfroAmerican minority youth show that three quarters of them do not complete High School,a social disaster surely.
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    Dr Orla Doyle has been doing some very interesting work on this issue.
    It pays to intervene in the early stages of a person's life, both for the individual and for society.
    The world is a very puzzling place. If you're not willing to be puzzled, you just become a replica of someone else's mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patslatt View Post
    See Boston Review — James J. Heckman: Promoting Social Mobility

    Heckman's research provides convincing arguments that early childhood education yields excellent results for disadvantaged communities in contrast to interventions at a later age,such as remedial education for teenagers,adult literacy programmes and rehabilitation for prisoners. Quality of parenting,not just low incomes,deserves more attention in the assessment of childhood disadvantage.

    Despite hard economic times,it would be extremely harmful to Irish society if the government were to cut support for early childhood education for the disadvantaged. Figures for Hispanic and AfroAmerican minorities in the US show that three quarters of youth do not complete High School,a social disaster surely.
    Now theres the key - how do we achieve that because all the money in the world won't fix the problem if we don't tackle the root cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patslatt View Post
    See Boston Review James J. Heckman: Promoting Social Mobility

    Heckman's research provides convincing arguments that early childhood education yields excellent results for disadvantaged communities in contrast to interventions at a later age,such as remedial education for teenagers,adult literacy programmes and rehabilitation for prisoners. Quality of parenting,not just low incomes,deserves more attention in the assessment of childhood disadvantage.

    Despite hard economic times,it would be extremely harmful to Irish society if the government were to cut support for early childhood education for the disadvantaged. Figures for Hispanic and AfroAmerican minorities in the US show that three quarters of youth do not complete High School,a social disaster surely.
    Now theres the key - how do we achieve that because all the money in the world won't fix the problem if we don't tackle the root cause.

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    Completely disagree. The best help for children is to focus on the parents. Get the dads into work. Teach the mums proper hygiene and cooking (yes, pc people be upset by that one)

    It is the really basic stuff that is lacking for the most disadvantaged kids in our society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bismarck View Post
    Now theres the key - how do we achieve that because all the money in the world won't fix the problem if we don't tackle the root cause.
    Parental education and free preschool for those who need it would be a start.
    The world is a very puzzling place. If you're not willing to be puzzled, you just become a replica of someone else's mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patslatt View Post
    See Boston Review James J. Heckman: Promoting Social Mobility

    Heckman's research provides convincing arguments that early childhood education yields excellent results for disadvantaged communities in contrast to interventions at a later age,such as remedial education for teenagers,adult literacy programmes and rehabilitation for prisoners. Quality of parenting,not just low incomes,deserves more attention in the assessment of childhood disadvantage.

    Despite hard economic times,it would be extremely harmful to Irish society if the government were to cut support for early childhood education for the disadvantaged. Figures for Hispanic and AfroAmerican minorities in the US show that three quarters of youth do not complete High School,a social disaster surely.
    Every primary teacher will tell you this but it's not so easy to convince politicians with short-term views and an eye for what is 'sexy'.

    We should also raise the minimum age for leaving school and stop allowing children to be married.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabhcan View Post
    Completely disagree. The best help for children is to focus on the parents. Get the dads into work. Teach the mums proper hygiene and cooking (yes, pc people be upset by that one)

    It is the really basic stuff that is lacking for the most disadvantaged kids in our society.
    I think its a combination of both. But ensuring that children are being brought up in a safe, loving environment is key.
    The world is a very puzzling place. If you're not willing to be puzzled, you just become a replica of someone else's mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabhcan View Post
    Completely disagree. The best help for children is to focus on the parents. Get the dads into work. Teach the mums proper hygiene and cooking (yes, pc people be upset by that one)
    Why not train the dads to cook and let the mothers work? - ffs

    Quote Originally Posted by seabhcan View Post
    It is the really basic stuff that is lacking for the most disadvantaged kids in our society.
    the LP has seen the light and is not making pompous populist noises about jobs and educaton anymore -

    And it looks like patslatt has had a Damascus conversion - until tomorrow when normal (bashing) service is resumed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patslatt View Post
    See Boston Review James J. Heckman: Promoting Social Mobility

    Heckman's research provides convincing arguments that early childhood education yields excellent results for disadvantaged communities in contrast to interventions at a later age,such as remedial education for teenagers,adult literacy programmes and rehabilitation for prisoners. Quality of parenting,not just low incomes,deserves more attention in the assessment of childhood disadvantage.

    Despite hard economic times,it would be extremely harmful to Irish society if the government were to cut support for early childhood education for the disadvantaged. We don't want to emulate the US where figures for Hispanic and AfroAmerican minority youth show that three quarters of them do not complete High School,a social disaster surely.
    What are you suggesting? pump more money into failed social programs?

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