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    I have voted FG in every election since 1997 and been an active member 2004-2011. That involved a mixture of canvassing and leaflet dropping. My main motivation was to oust FF and a general high regard for one Particular FG TD and for past leaders (Bruton/Fitzgerald/Dukes). I also foolishly believed the Social Democratic wing of FG was still alive after Garret

    But Now I quit and walk away for a number of reasons

    1) The failure to bring real political reform.ie a list system (even partial) the removal of TDS from Constituencies once they become Ministers. I do applaud the abolition of the seanad but will believe it when I see it. The Constitutional Convention is a waste of time/money. Gay marriage and the Presidential Term ??! Thats it?

    2) The failure to get a deal on Bank Debt. I was willing to suspend my cynicism about the softly softly behind the scenes approach for a year but here we are 18 months on with nothing and even if a deal happens, it will only be a paltry offer at best. As Stephen Donnelly pointed out ,there is no link between the IMF deal and this immoral appeasement of German Banks.

    3)The Anti public sector strain in FG that avoids real meaningful discussion but instead just issues vague condemnation of the public sector. Incessant moaning. A lot of the time its simply playing to the Gallery and its demoralising for those of us that have offered huge changes in productivity. I didnt appreciate Quinn unilaterally announcing JC reform without making sure training was in place. It will be a disaster but I didnt see FG provide any credible criticism.

    Anyway ULA? Labour. Not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riker1969 View Post
    I have voted FG in every election since 1997 and been an active member 2004-2011. That involved a mixture of canvassing and leaflet dropping. My main motivation was to oust FF and a general high regard for one Particular FG TD and for past leaders (Bruton/Fitzgerald/Dukes). I also foolishly believed the Social Democratic wing of FG was still alive after Garret

    But Now I quit and walk away for a number of reasons

    1) The failure to bring real political reform.ie a list system (even partial) the removal of TDS from Constituencies once they become Ministers. I do applaud the abolition of the seanad but will believe it when I see it. The Constitutional Convention is a waste of time/money. Gay marriage and the Presidential Term ??! Thats it?

    2) The failure to get a deal on Bank Debt. I was willing to suspend my cynicism about the softly softly behind the scenes approach for a year but here we are 18 months on with nothing and even if a deal happens it will only be a paltry offer at best. As Stephen Donnelly pointed out there is no link between the IMF deal and this immoral appeasement of German Banks.

    3)The Anti public sector strain in FG that avoids real meaningful discussion but instead just issues vague condemnation of the public sector. A lot of the time its simply playing to the Gallery and its demoralising for those of us that have offered huge changes in productivity. I didnt appreciate Quinn unilaterally announcing JC reform without making sure training was in place. It will be a disaster but I didnt see FG provide any credible criticism.

    Anyway ULA? Labour. Not sure.
    Labour? Is that not like hopping out of bed with Dracula only to jump into another with Frankenstein?
    Boycott the "Irish" Sun rag.

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    I think #3 is the big one for you. The rest is fluff.

    Public Sector posters on this site tend not to have many dimensions.

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    I voted for FG the last time like a fool i believed all Enda and his party were saying they do,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sister Mercedes View Post
    I think #3 is the big one for you. The rest is fluff.

    Public Sector posters on this site don't have many dimensions.

    You mean Im a hologram. Im not 3-D? I always noticed light passed through me. Thanks for the mind reading. Will I now offer my palm..believe ikt or not they are listed in order but thanks for the knee jerk criticism!

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    Quote Originally Posted by commonman View Post
    I voted for FG the last time like a fool i believed all Enda and his party were saying they do,
    If the election last year was ten days earlier Fine Gael would of got my first preference vote.
    I sensed they were backtracking and took a punt on SF for the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by commonman View Post
    I voted for FG the last time like a fool i believed all Enda and his party were saying they do,
    I voted FG the last time like a fool
    because I disbelieved in them least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sport02 View Post
    If the election last year was ten days earlier Fine Gael would of got my first preference vote.
    I sensed they were backtracking and took a punt on SF for the first time.
    Going that way my self the next time we have an election

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    Quote Originally Posted by riker1969 View Post
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    Anyway ULA? Labour. Not sure.
    Even writing ULA makes me
    wonder how you could ever
    have been a FG supporter in
    the first place.

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