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    The question rather should be: You knew the GDR? The part of Germany "behind the wall/iron courtain"?

    Perversely the South made me think that capitalism isn't this bad. Could'nt say why, but I was attracted by Ireland even before the GDR was occupied. And what I saw here made me think that strange way I mentioned.

    But that's not my question. I know what the Irish thought about my country an socialism at that time. Now Ireland has changed a lot since then and you're exposed to the common Euroimperial Propaganda as we are.

    What do you know or think or think to know about my homeland (if you ever heard of it)?

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    erm what
    Are you asking me if i have ever heard of the GDR/DDR
    The answer is yes of course as I think it would be to most people here.
    Was never in the actual DDR but have been to Germany and Berlin good few times lived there for a while and have contacts (and trying to get more)

    What do I think of the DDR, It was an occupation of victorious armies in both the west and east.
    After the devastation of WW2 Germany as a whole and particularly berlin saw their land divided, their people split, families cut off and for many hardship, state control and torture
    It should not have been allowed happen, and hopefully will never be allowed happen again

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    Quote Originally Posted by forest
    erm what
    Are you asking me if i have ever heard of the GDR/DDR
    The answer is yes of course as I think it would be to most people here.
    Was never in the actual DDR but have been to Germany and Berlin good few times lived there for a while and have contacts (and trying to get more)

    What do I thing of the DDR, It was an occupation of victorious armies in both the west and east.
    After the devastation of WW2 Germany as a whole and particularly Germany saw their land divided, their people split, families cut off and for many hardship, state control and torture
    It should not have been allowed happen, and hopefully will never be allowed happen again

    Berlin is one Germany is one Europe is One
    Berlin is the Capital but Germany lost a lot of territory post WWI & WWII.

    Up until 1970 the West German Government considered the National Territory to consist of Germany as it was in 1938 proir to the Anchluss with Austria.

    It was only when the policy of Realpolitik was implemented in that year that the post War boundries were recognised as legitimate.

    As for the DDR yes I was there a couple of times in 1968 & 1970. Only in East Berlin mind but it was an interesting place.

    The Wall was a bit depressing though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by felixed
    The question rather should be: You knew the GDR? The part of Germany "behind the wall/iron courtain"?

    Perversely the South made me think that capitalism isn't this bad. Could'nt say why, but I was attracted by Ireland even before the GDR was occupied. And what I saw here made me think that strange way I mentioned.

    But that's not my question. I know what the Irish thought about my country an socialism at that time. Now Ireland has changed a lot since then and you're exposed to the common Euroimperial Propaganda as we are.

    What do you know or think or think to know about my homeland (if you ever heard of it)?
    You obviously have some agenda here.

    What don't you just come out and say what ever it is you want to say?

    I'm presuming its along the lines of:

    You thought the GDR was a failed state, but in comparison to the ultra-consumerism and inequality of western europe of 2007, it wasn't such a bad place as people thought.
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    The GDR/DDR was in fact the jewel in the crown of the Warsaw Pact group.
    I studied there in Karl Marx Universitat - Leipzig. and drank in the MoritzBastei.
    The DDR was despite its detractors a well run state. Education, Health, and Food for all.
    You could even get Cuban cigars when there weren't hip elsewhere.
    As for the culture, Auerbachs Keller was a bit of craic in the late 80's.
    Pity about Kirsten Otto - I met her in Leipzig in the late eighties at the national training Stadium when she was at her prime and thought she was a man.
    Apart from that and Honecker, a great state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qtman
    You thought the GDR was a failed state, but in comparison to the ultra-consumerism and inequality of western europe of 2007, it wasn't such a bad place as people thought.
    As the people are made to think. And so I want to know what you were told about the DDR and what your own experiences are. Because in Germany the youth ist told a whole lot of shite of what it was like.

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    i know people whom live in the GDR (born and raised) whom are very clear that life is far far better now than in the pre 91 days of Erik Honiker (sp)
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    Quote Originally Posted by felixed
    Quote Originally Posted by qtman
    You thought the GDR was a failed state, but in comparison to the ultra-consumerism and inequality of western europe of 2007, it wasn't such a bad place as people thought.
    As the people are made to think. And so I want to know what you were told about the DDR and what your own experiences are. Because in Germany the youth ist told a whole lot of shite of what it was like.
    Do you consider yourself more as East-German rather than as German? There is nothing wrong with that. However, I think there is a lot of nostalgia, or ostalgia as the Germans call it, for the DDR.

    I´m sure that even if there ever was a united Ireland, many northeners will still consider themselves as Northern Irish rather than as Irish. Everyone is free to consider oneself what one thinks fit.

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