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    Default The dropping of subjects.

    The ASTI says 64% of second-level schools are thinking about dropping subjects.

    64% of schools considering Leaving Cert subject cuts - ASTI - RT News
    Here's a comment from a Guest on the RTÉ news site (the following link is the Comments section of the above link)
    64% of schools considering Leaving Cert subject cuts - ASTI - RT News

    Once again, comments by those who do not understand how timetabling in schools works. The subjects dropped will be ones where the teacher is a part-timer and for which there is least demand. Most of the named subjects are already done in small groups, often as an add-on to the main timetable. It doesn't matter how valuable some people see the subjects as.
    There are schools losing ten per cent of their teaching hours this September - this is the effect.
    If not enough students in a school want to keep a particular optional subject, e.g. Accounting, then it's not financially viable for that school to continue providing that subject in the current economic climate. Schools cannot force students to choose optional subjects they don't want to do. Students are under enough pressure with studies for the Junior and Leaving Cert exams without worrying about the economy.

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    Simple solution. Cut pay to all teachers by 5%, use cash to employ new recruits.
    The concern of teaching unions extends to the pay and hours of their members. No further.
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    In my school only about 5 choose chemistry at lc - these are the generally the top students academically - physics is also a subject most shy away from.. Despite this our school has always made big efforts to run these classes. It is very doubtful that these will be offered in sep 2012... Thanks Rory Quinn - we dont really need our bright young People educated in the sciences - knowledge economy and all... Construction studies will no doubt be a runner!!!!!

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    You're absolutely right, drummed. The teachers' and nurses' unions should be honest about the fact that their function is to protect their members' interests, not protect the interests of children and patients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidcameron View Post
    You're absolutely right, drummed. The teachers' and nurses' unions should be honest about the fact that their function is to protect their members' interests, not protect the interests of children and patients.
    The IFA for example seeks to benefit farmers. Not cows.
    At least their honest in that. The annual belly aching from teachers is hard to take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texal Tom View Post
    In my school only about 5 choose chemistry at lc - these are the generally the top students academically - physics is also a subject most shy away from.. Despite this our school has always made big efforts to run these classes. It is very doubtful that these will be offered in sep 2012... Thanks Rory Quinn - we dont really need our bright young People educated in the sciences - knowledge economy and all... Construction studies will no doubt be a runner!!!!!
    There's no point in the school offering those subjects if most students don't want to do them. No school that I know of ever offered all subjects on the national curriculum anyway. One of my classmates is from a far-out part of Co. Cavan. He went to the same school as I did because the second-level school that was nearest to his home didn't offer Art. Furthermore, the girls' school that my sisters attended did not offer Economics (as opposed to Home Economics).

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    Quote Originally Posted by drummed View Post
    Simple solution. Cut pay to all teachers by 5%, use cash to employ new recruits.
    The concern of teaching unions extends to the pay and hours of their members. No further.
    And that's what their members pay them for - to protect their pay and conditions - so don't try and make it appear as if there is something wrong with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertW View Post
    And that's what their members pay them for - to protect their pay and conditions - so don't try and make it appear as if there is something wrong with that.


    I'm not as such. I dislike the way it's presented as being all about the poor students.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drummed View Post
    The IFA for example seeks to benefit farmers. Not cows.
    At least their honest in that. The annual belly aching from teachers is hard to take.
    Tell us about your source of financing from the CAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertW View Post
    Tell us about your source of financing from the CAP.


    Farms get funded by CAP. What's the link to teaching hours and subjects?
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