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    Just seen this in Broadsheet: Household Charge – how to LEGALLY avoid paying it Ireland on it's knees

    "This household charge is a Statute, otherwise known as an Act of Government and only carries the force of law upon you if you consent to it which means that your legally obliged to pay if you consent or in other words go on to householdcharge.ie and register. Your silence and inaction will also give the appearance of consent. If you do not consent, a Statute cannot affect you in any way whatsoever."

    Any legal advise?

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    Move to a designated unfinished estate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Default Now View Post
    Just seen this in Broadsheet: Household Charge – how to LEGALLY avoid paying it Ireland on it's knees

    "This household charge is a Statute, otherwise known as an Act of Government and only carries the force of law upon you if you consent to it which means that your legally obliged to pay if you consent or in other words go on to householdcharge.ie and register. Your silence and inaction will also give the appearance of consent. If you do not consent, a Statute cannot affect you in any way whatsoever."

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    So does this mean one will have to be brought to court and then one advises the court on the above??

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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeViking View Post
    Move to a designated unfinished estate.
    Or the UK: what are local authority chargs like there now?

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    Sounds like bolloxology to me ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Default Now View Post
    Just seen this in Broadsheet: Household Charge how to LEGALLY avoid paying it Ireland on it's knees

    "This household charge is a Statute, otherwise known as an Act of Government and only carries the force of law upon you if you consent to it which means that your legally obliged to pay if you consent or in other words go on to householdcharge.ie and register. Your silence and inaction will also give the appearance of consent. If you do not consent, a Statute cannot affect you in any way whatsoever."

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    My legal advice would be not to take 'legal advice' from some anonymous 'expert' on the internet!

    Every tax, levy and govt charge comes about as a result of a statute. Is this gobsheen suggesting that if you don't consent to paying income tax, you don't have to?

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    Just seen this in Broadsheet: Household Charge how to LEGALLY avoid paying it Ireland on it's knees

    "This household charge is a Statute, otherwise known as an Act of Government and only carries the force of law upon you if you consent to it which means that your legally obliged to pay if you consent or in other words go on to householdcharge.ie and register. Your silence and inaction will also give the appearance of consent. If you do not consent, a Statute cannot affect you in any way whatsoever."

    Any legal advise?
    I whole-heartedly endorse this crystal clear legal advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Default Now View Post
    Just seen this in Broadsheet: Household Charge – how to LEGALLY avoid paying it Ireland on it's knees

    "This household charge is a Statute, otherwise known as an Act of Government and only carries the force of law upon you if you consent to it which means that your legally obliged to pay if you consent or in other words go on to householdcharge.ie and register. Your silence and inaction will also give the appearance of consent. If you do not consent, a Statute cannot affect you in any way whatsoever."

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    Sounds like common law stuff to me but isn't it maintained by most that the principles of common law holds very little sway in Ireland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Default Now View Post
    Just seen this in Broadsheet: Household Charge – how to LEGALLY avoid paying it Ireland on it's knees

    "This household charge is a Statute, otherwise known as an Act of Government and only carries the force of law upon you if you consent to it which means that your legally obliged to pay if you consent or in other words go on to householdcharge.ie and register. Your silence and inaction will also give the appearance of consent. If you do not consent, a Statute cannot affect you in any way whatsoever."

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    So if you regiser you are giving your consent? Then you say in bold above your silence and inaction will also give the appearance of consent. So what's the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Default Now View Post
    Just seen this in Broadsheet: Household Charge how to LEGALLY avoid paying it Ireland on it's knees

    "This household charge is a Statute, otherwise known as an Act of Government and only carries the force of law upon you if you consent to it which means that your legally obliged to pay if you consent or in other words go on to householdcharge.ie and register. Your silence and inaction will also give the appearance of consent. If you do not consent, a Statute cannot affect you in any way whatsoever."

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    Absolute rubbish.

    Note that it says 'consent of the Governed'. That does not mean each individual must consent, it means that as a collective, the 'Governed' consent to be Governed. That consent is delivered through an election and through the adoption of a Constitution which sets out the political and legal framework in which the 'Governed' delegate their consent to elected representatives on a regular basis.

    Quite aside from all of that, this country has had quite enough of chancers deciding that they should decide which taxes they do and do not wish to pay. This tax is legal, this tax is constitutional. It is open to any person to campaign to stop it or remove it or change it in a democratic system. But while it exists, anyone not paying it is the same as every other tax cheat and dodger that has gone before them, and have absolutely no right to moan about public services or the way in which public money is spent.

    So in short, no - a random (and wrong) explanation of how to 'legally' avoid payment doesn't change the fact that those who do not pay are breaking the law and should be punished and socially shunned in the way every other tax cheat is.

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