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    Following on on two excellent previous threads re photographs and great speeches, what would be people take on piece of music or musical works that defined or are of major significance in history.

    Of course I appreciate like the other two threads, much of it is subjective and open to differing perspectives which means from our Republican brethren here I expect The Wolf Tones ballad collection and Bobby Sands collected lyrics will feature significantly at some point.

    Alternatively here's some other to start with (and I do appreciate these have a predominantly European/Western Civilization bias and note the token Paddy's thrown in!):


    Gregorian Chant

    Palestrena's Missa Papal Mastrelli

    Monteverdi's Orfeo

    JS Bach - Brandenburg Concerto's and Tocatta and Fugue

    Handels Messiah

    Pachabels - Canon in D minor

    Mozart's: 40th Symphony, Requeim, Eine Kleine Nachtmusic and Barber of Seville

    Beethoven's 9th Symphony and Emperor Piano Concerto

    John Field's Nocturnes

    Johann Strauss II - The Blue Danube

    Tchaikovskys 1812 Overture

    Verdi - La Traviata

    Pucinni - La Boheme

    Wagner - The Ring of the Niebulung

    Gershwin - Rhapsody in Blue

    Glenn Miller - In the Mood

    Robert Johnson - The San Antonio Recordings

    Bill Haley - Rock around the Clock

    Elvis Presley - The Sun Recordings

    The Beatles Let it Be or Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club

    The Monkee's - Day Dream Believer (The first manafactured boy band)

    Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks

    Van Morrison - Astral Weeks

    Pink Floyd - Dark side of the Moon

    U2 - The Joshua Tree

    Paul Simon - Graceland

    Yep, I know, a very subjective list and far from exhaustive in any sense and it also occurs to me that it could ideally spawn a separate thread of the most influental songs in history. I'll leave that to someone else!

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    Many are not pieces but whole operas.

    Schubert's Ellens dritter Gesang should be there and also Mozart's An die Freude from his ninth symphony should get a special mention, for all us inclined toward our European membership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retep
    Following on on two excellent previous threads re photographs and great speeches, what would be people take on piece of music or musical works that defined or are of major significance in history.

    Of course I appreciate like the other two threads, much of it is subjective and open to differing perspectives which means from our Republican brethren here I expect The Wolf Tones ballad collection and Bobby Sands collected lyrics will feature significantly at some point.

    Alternatively here's some other to start with (and I do appreciate these have a predominantly European/Western Civilization bias and note the token Paddy's thrown in!):


    Gregorian Chant

    Palestrena's Missa Papal Mastrelli

    Monteverdi's Orfeo

    JS Bach - Brandenburg Concerto's and Tocatta and Fugue

    Handels Messiah

    Pachabels - Canon in D minor

    Mozart's: 40th Symphony, Requeim, Eine Kleine Nachtmusic and Barber of Seville

    Beethoven's 9th Symphony and Emperor Piano Concerto

    John Field's Nocturnes

    Johann Strauss II - The Blue Danube

    Tchaikovskys 1812 Overture

    Verdi - La Traviata

    Pucinni - La Boheme

    Wagner - The Ring of the Niebulung

    Gershwin - Rhapsody in Blue

    Glenn Miller - In the Mood

    Robert Johnson - The San Antonio Recordings

    Bill Haley - Rock around the Clock

    Elvis Presley - The Sun Recordings

    The Beatles Let it Be or Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club

    The Monkee's - Day Dream Believer (The first manafactured boy band)

    Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks

    Van Morrison - Astral Weeks

    Pink Floyd - Dark side of the Moon

    U2 - The Joshua Tree

    Paul Simon - Graceland

    Yep, I know, a very subjective list and far from exhaustive in any sense and it also occurs to me that it could ideally spawn a separate thread of the most influental songs in history. I'll leave that to someone else!
    I tentatively suggest that this thread be re-written as a tribute to songs/music/operas etc that remind people of historical and political change? Music may have changed history once or twice over the centuries but it hardly ever dictated policy.

    Examples I'm thinking of in the memorial stakes include almost everything from the late 1960s which a lot of people would relate to the Vietnam War? 'Love Child', 'Painted Black' etc

    Sousa's marches which still live on? Can't write notes.

    Vera Lynn and the British aspect in WWII? 'We'll meeet again, don't know where, don't know when...' etc

    There was also a piece of music which was representative of Napoleons disastrous invasion of Russia and the subsequent legger...maybe you mentioned it but I don't know it from the titles above?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev408
    There was also a piece of music which was representative of Napoleons disastrous invasion of Russia and the subsequent legger...maybe you mentioned it but I don't know it from the titles above?
    Bonaparte's Retreat - The Chieftans? Or are you thinking of the 1812 Overture?

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    Have a few pints on me at present and i couldn't hope to answer that question definitivley but am listening to The Holy Bible by the manics, great album.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc
    Quote Originally Posted by Kev408
    There was also a piece of music which was representative of Napoleons disastrous invasion of Russia and the subsequent legger...maybe you mentioned it but I don't know it from the titles above?
    Bonaparte's Retreat - The Chieftans? Or are you thinking of the 1812 Overture?

    Regards...jmcc
    A few pints here too but it was the 1812 Overture. Some mad Christian Brother played it for us during a free class years ago. I think he was jarred because what Catholic lickspittle would highlight the pinkos victory even when it was actually the weather that screwed the French? Whatever, thats a number I'll always remember
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    A Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procul Harem?
    Beasley Street - John Cooper Clarke. One of the best Punk songs ever.
    No More Heroes - The Stranglers.
    Holiday In The Sun - The Sex Pistols.
    Oliver's Army - Elvis Costello.
    Once In A Lifetime - Talking Heads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc
    A Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procul Harem?
    Beasley Street - John Cooper Clarke. One of the best Punk songs ever.
    No More Heroes - The Stranglers.
    Holiday In The Sun - The Sex Pistols.
    Oliver's Army - Elvis Costello.
    Once In A Lifetime - Talking Heads.

    Regards...jmcc
    "what would be people take on piece of music or musical works that defined or are of major significance in history".

    You're thinking of tunes that were historically important in musical terms and damn good choices they were. I'm suggesting we define the initial question more clearly so we know what we're looking for.

    p.s. Floyd's 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond' describes the thoughts of the then remaining members of Pink Floyd towards Syd Barrett.

    He died recently.

    Aaaaanyway, what are we looking for here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev408
    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc
    A Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procul Harem?
    Beasley Street - John Cooper Clarke. One of the best Punk songs ever.
    No More Heroes - The Stranglers.
    Holiday In The Sun - The Sex Pistols.
    Oliver's Army - Elvis Costello.
    Once In A Lifetime - Talking Heads.

    Regards...jmcc
    "what would be people take on piece of music or musical works that defined or are of major significance in history"
    Whiter Shade Of Pale - one of the best 1960s songs.

    No More Heros/Holiday In The Sun - kind of defined the attitude of a generation to the established order. There are people who claim that they were punks and those who wish that they were. But I guess you never lose that questioning nature if you are a true punk.

    Beasley Street - the early 1980s were that bleak for some. Unemployment was high.

    Oliver's Army - Good song but listen to the lyrics.

    Once In A Lifetime - I guess you had to be there.

    Also Rock The Kasbah, various Jam tracks, Ian Dury And The Blockheads (What A Waste, Reasons To Be Cheerful - Part 3), SLF - Suspect Device.


    p.s. Floyd's 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond' describes the thoughts of the then remaining members of Pink Floyd towards Syd Barrett.

    He died recently.
    Yep. It was a pity what happened to him. Some of the early Pink Floyd stuff was great.

    Aaaaanyway, what are we looking for here?
    Good tunes maaaaan .

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    Regards...jmcc

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