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    I'm attempting to start a new libertarian party. The basic premise of the party is a small government with as little intervention into the lives of people and business as possible. It's about giving more freedom back to us the people and away from centralized cabinet power. It's therefore about political and civil reform to ensure bureaucrats don't run our lives for us.

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    The policies are draft and will be changed, created or endorsed when the party is officially formed.

    If you think this reflects your views, someone you might know or you think you could lead the party then sign up and discuss with me. PM welcome. I'll do my best to answer questions and Pm's but I am working and trying to fit this in a tight schedule.

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    Please do not attempt to pass this movement off as a libertarian party. The foremost goal of a libertarian party is limiting the socialist state, your goals are not congruent with this.

    Your page says:

    The party stands for the principles of individual freedom, respect for human rights, the rule of law, equality of opportunity, free and fair elections and multiparty-democracy, social justice, tolerance, free market economy, free trade, environmental sustainability and a strong sense of international solidarity.Firstly you are going to need to expand on exactly what you mean here.

    Does equality of opportunity mean introducing even more Nial Cowley like equality legislation or reducing the rubbish he has brought in already or is it some type of socialist lets all be equal thing.

    Human Rights? a very general statement, if you mean Human rights as in the rights of the individual over the state good, if its the amnesty international version of controlling us all with crazy legislation and refugees from guantanamo bay who happen to be Al Quida bad.

    I quote "* If we want society to live in harmony with the ecological environment, we cannot claim the right to abuse nature for our private, short-term interests." - this is best left to the green party, thankfully soon to be gone.

    Social Justice - we already have too much rubbish mouthed about this by the Irish Left already

    You throw in a quip about the free market economy and free trade but all your other policies seem to be no different to those of Labour.

    What we need is a fiscally conservative libertarian party, not a new left wing Liberal party which will only be a watered down version of labour. Although if you do help to fragment the Irish left further well and good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brehon View Post
    I'm attempting to start a new libertarian party. The basic premise of the party is a small government with as little intervention into the lives of people and business as possible. It's about giving more freedom back to us the people and away from centralized cabinet power. It's therefore about political and civil reform to ensure bureaucrats don't run our lives for us.

    Irish Liberal Party | Facebook

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    The policies are draft and will be changed, created or endorsed when the party is officially formed.

    If you think this reflects your views, someone you might know or you think you could lead the party then sign up and discuss with me. PM welcome. I'll do my best to answer questions and Pm's but I am working and trying to fit this in a tight schedule.
    When attempting to send you a PM, I get
    Brehon has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages.

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    Liberal or Libertarian? (They're not the same).

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    Another internet-based political 'party'. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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    I'd be reluctant to even think about joining a party where not one person is willing to put there name on the website...

    I mean even FF do that.
    Oh and we are too liberal already - bring back a bit of authority i say
    ANGER IS A POLICY, GET OFF YOUR KNEES

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    Oh my god I just saw this on their website definatly not libertarian:

    Some of the policies of the Irish Liberal Party are



    Introduction of a Land Valuation Tax
    Strong regulation in all professions and industries without exception

    Property taxes and strong regulation are two of the things that Libertarians stand firmly against. I think you need to buy a dictionary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhead101 View Post
    Liberal or Libertarian? (They're not the same).
    Completely agree. In Ireland, the PD's are considered a "Neo-Liberal" party when in fact they doubled the size of the public sector and interfered with regulators left right and centre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenderloins1 View Post
    When attempting to send you a PM, I get
    Brehon has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages.
    Don't know why, settings allow PM'ing ??

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    I agree. Seems too sane to be libertarian.
    Libertarianism has come to mean the brand of right-wing I'm-alright-jack anarchism that some nutbars in the USA have adopted.
    Liberalism is a very different thing.

    Also, you need 300 signatures to form a political party. Real paper signatures, not internet jobbies.

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