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Thread: Children of the Nazis living in Israel

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    Strange indeed. Put them together with the so-called " quarter Jews " from Russia many of whom are neo-nazis and what would you get ?

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    Not strange at all. When the nazis were defeated Jews could have sought revenge against the families of Nazis or took to suicide bombs to kill as many people associated with the Nazis as possible. But guess what?.......they never did that. They went after the nazis who survived the war, but they never took revenge on the children of those Nazis. And if some of those children converted to Judaism then good luck to them and they are very welcome in Israel
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    Quote Originally Posted by former wesleyan View Post
    Strange indeed. Put them together with the so-called " quarter Jews " from Russia many of whom are neo-nazis and what would you get ?
    Interesting- the descendants of Nazis must be Nazis too.

    Think it's in the genes??
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    Strange but true. Did you see a few years back when Russian immigrants of Jewish extraction were convicted in Israel of Neo Nazi anti Semitic attacks.

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    Admire Israel in many respects.

    But why should I be surprised that the victims of Nazism might be coarsened by their experience and destined to repeat the horrors of their persecutors ?

    And to hear that offspring of Nazis are now in positions of power in Israel may explain much of the unacceptable behaviour the world has witnessed in Israel itself and the surrounding territories over many decades.

    Having said that.....there are many good Israelis who are ashamed of their country's excesses and disregard for human rights.

    These Israelis, who are a population minority, are to be admired for not degenerating into the Nazi-type behaviour they see around them, and for the courage they exhibit in the face of poisonous State-backed terror.

    Many (but by no means all) Israelis these days, are bigots and zealots.

    What major European country in the Thirties and Forties do they remind you of ?

    It's time that decent, tolerant and sensitive Israelis should strongly assert all that is good in that country.........and not let their nation continue in the grip of bigots and the off-spring of their former persecutors.

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    I wonder will the children and grandchildren of FFkers feel guilty enough to convert to being ordinary law abiding taxpayers someday ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Poynt View Post
    Admire Israel in many respects.

    But why should I be surprised that the victims of Nazism might be coarsened by their experience and destined to repeat the horrors of their persecutors ?

    And to hear that offspring of Nazis are now in positions of power in Israel may explain much of the unacceptable behaviour the world has witnessed in Israel itself and the surrounding territories over many decades.

    Having said that.....there are many good Israelis who are ashamed of their country's excesses and disregard for human rights.

    These Israelis, who are a population minority, are to be admired for not degenerating into the Nazi-type behaviour they see around them, and for the courage they exhibit in the face of poisonous State-backed terror.

    Many (but by no means all) Israelis these days, are bigots and zealots.

    What major European country in the Thirties and Forties do they remind you of ?

    It's time that decent, tolerant and sensitive Israelis should strongly assert all that is good in that country.........and not let their nation continue in the grip of bigots and the off-spring of their former persecutors.
    Where to begin. A large percentage of Israelis are Eastern European so the only thing that oppressed them was lots of socialism. Does that make them socialists now?
    A great many Israelis (maybe a quarter but I'm sure somebody out there knows) are native to the Middle East and North Africa. However much one may disapprove of Israel's actions as a nation, the tentative "Nazi" connection smacks of sheer desperation and is a very, very tired one at this stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Johnston View Post
    the tentative "Nazi" connection
    The connection between the Ashkenazi Zionists and Nazi's is not so tentative. Here. Zionism and Nazism are extremely similar philosophies. It is no small wonder that a Zionist State should exhibit similar traits to a Nazi State. Nor is it any secret that many times the abused become the abusers.

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    Are you saying that it is 'guilt' that has driven Nazi offspring to become part of the power-wielding elite in Israel ?

    Or is it the shame they feel and the desire for respectability ?

    Or is it, as I suspect, the recognition that modern day Israel in some respects reminds them of their lost Reich, what with its super nationalism and a minority Muslim population that can be persecuted and exploited.

    In one sense it's like a home-from-home for these Nazi offspring. Hence, the reason they probably feel so comfortable in Israel.

    All they need do is attend a synagogue and in the words of L'Chaim " they are very welcome in Israel". Shame on you, L'Chaim. Did you ever hear of the name/word Quisling ?

    As for FF children and grandchildren atoning for the sins of their fathers......that will only happen when FF is smashed politically and no longer a vehicle for these unconstructed young 'uns to return to in better times.

    Never must Nazis or economy, morality and sensibility destroyers like FF be allowed to return to power. We owe it to lovely innocent Jewish and Irish children to protect our countries, Israel and Ireland, against any resurrection of these evil people.

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