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    The Sunday Independent's John Drennan has produced a supplement with today's SINDO (called John Drennan's Guide to Irish Politics) where he predicts the outcome of the next General Election on a constituency-by-constituency basis.

    He predicts that Labour will be the largest party on 56 seats, with Fine Gael on 54 seats, he anticipates that FF will almost half their seats to 42 seats and believes the Greens will be wiped out.

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    FF    42
    FG    54
    Lab   56
    SF     6
    Ind    8
    Amongst the various writings, a column entitled "The dozen we've got to dump" names TDs who are the "weakest links". Amongst the names are Bertie Ahern, Dermot Ahern (who he calls an "un-original timserver whose day is done"), Barry Andrews ("a dull dynast who has nothing to offer outside affable banality"), Simon Coveney (which Drennan simply writes "see Barry Andrews"), Brian Cowen ("the worst Irish Taoiseach we have ever suffered"), Noel Demspey ("sole achivement of this 'great thinker' consists of a tax on plastic bags"), Mary Harney (Drennan writes that Harney "destroyed two departments ... off you go now dear ..."), Sean Haughey ("what has he done of note?"), Brendan Smith ("quite useless in every job he was asked to do") and Michael Woods ("old Leinster House ghost who should be pottering around watering the tomato plants").

    In another article Drennan lists out the TDs whom he believes are most at-risk of losing their seats, he lists Mary Harney, John Gormley, Barry Andrews, Eamon Ryan, Batt O'Keefe, Pat Carey, Mary Hanafin, Micheal Martin, Brendan Smith and Mary Coughlan as most at risk.

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    great stuff from him, didnt know he was so anti FF
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    That seems fairly accurate to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Cochrane View Post
    The Sunday Independent's John Drennan has produced a supplement with today's SINDO (called John Drennan's Guide to Irish Politics) where he predicts the outcome of the next General Election on a constituency-by-constituency basis.

    He predicts that Labour will be the largest party on 56 seats, with Fine Gael on 54 seats, he anticipates that FF will almost half their seats to 42 seats and believes the Greens will be wiped out.

    Code:
    FF    42
    FG    54
    Lab   56
    SF     6
    Ind    8
    Amongst the various writings, a column entitled "The dozen we've got to dump" names TDs who are the "weakest links". Amongst the names are Bertie Ahern, Dermot Ahern (who he calls an "un-original timserver whose day is done"), Barry Andrews ("a dull dynast who has nothing to offer outside affable banality"), Simon Coveney (which Drennan simply writes "see Barry Andrews"), Brian Cowen ("the worst Irish Taoiseach we have ever suffered"), Noel Demspey ("sole achivement of this 'great thinker' consists of a tax on plastic bags"), Mary Harney (Drennan writes that Harney "destroyed two departments ... off you go now dear ..."), Sean Haughey ("what has he done of note?"), Brendan Smith ("quite useless in every job he was asked to do") and Michael Woods ("old Leinster House ghost who should be pottering around watering the tomato plants").

    In another article Drennan lists out the TDs whom he believes are most at-risk of losing their seats, he lists Mary Harney, John Gormley, Barry Andrews, Eamon Ryan, Batt O'Keefe, Pat Carey, Mary Hanafin, Micheal Martin, Brendan Smith and Mary Coughlan as most at risk.

    I know I've said this elsewhere on this site , I was told at the time of the last election by a PD that , no matter what the outcome , Mary Harney would never stand again.

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    labour ooooooh labour boooogey man
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    Quite mindblowing figures for a Sindo publication. He argues that while the FF figure is incredibly low, on a constituency by const basis, that's the way the cookie crumbles, and in many cases FF have been given the benefit of the doubt.

    This (and the Red C and others) point towards sticky decision making time following the next election.

    Also points to some big questions for FG and Lab in election strategy in some constituencies - play it safe and rake in the seats, or go for gold and have secondary candidates running just in case the FF vote collapses to the extent that there are votes to mop up.

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    Frankly, I wouldn't look to the Sindo for guidance on anything.

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    his description of andrews and coveney could be used for most of the parlaimnet, ncluding the taoiseach and coughlan
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostexpectation View Post
    labour ooooooh labour boooogey man
    Got it in one.

    It is the usual trick from INM which brought you 'payback time' as revenge for Richard Bruton refusing to do what suited INM's business, and abuses Cowen not because it disapproves of his policies but because he wouldn't bail out Sir Anthony's Waterford Glass. They build up the pretence of Labour winning more seats to justify months of editorials and columns attacking Labour.

    It is the oldest trick in the INM book. The figures in Drennan's 'predictions' are garbage. I doubt even if he believes them. They were created by the paper to push an agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Cochrane View Post
    The Sunday Independent's John Drennan has produced a supplement with today's SINDO (called John Drennan's Guide to Irish Politics) where he predicts the outcome of the next General Election on a constituency-by-constituency basis.

    He predicts that Labour will be the largest party on 56 seats, with Fine Gael on 54 seats, he anticipates that FF will almost half their seats to 42 seats and believes the Greens will be wiped out.

    Code:
    FF    42
    FG    54
    Lab   56
    SF     6
    Ind    8
    Amongst the various writings, a column entitled "The dozen we've got to dump" names TDs who are the "weakest links". Amongst the names are Bertie Ahern, Dermot Ahern (who he calls an "un-original timserver whose day is done"), Barry Andrews ("a dull dynast who has nothing to offer outside affable banality"), Simon Coveney (which Drennan simply writes "see Barry Andrews"), Brian Cowen ("the worst Irish Taoiseach we have ever suffered"), Noel Demspey ("sole achivement of this 'great thinker' consists of a tax on plastic bags"), Mary Harney (Drennan writes that Harney "destroyed two departments ... off you go now dear ..."), Sean Haughey ("what has he done of note?"), Brendan Smith ("quite useless in every job he was asked to do") and Michael Woods ("old Leinster House ghost who should be pottering around watering the tomato plants").

    In another article Drennan lists out the TDs whom he believes are most at-risk of losing their seats, he lists Mary Harney, John Gormley, Barry Andrews, Eamon Ryan, Batt O'Keefe, Pat Carey, Mary Hanafin, Micheal Martin, Brendan Smith and Mary Coughlan as most at risk.
    Hmmmm .....pretty close to my poll of polls....

    Poll of Polls Irish Polling Report

    FF 23.3% 41 seats (1 less than him)
    FG 28.2% 50 seats (4 less)
    LP 30.2% 62 seats (6 more)
    SF 7.3% 5 seats (1 less)
    GP 2.3% 0 seats (same)
    OTH 8.6% 8 seats (same)

    would disagree that Coughlan, Smith or Martin have a serious chance of losing, but most of the others have an uphill battle on current polls

    is there a link?

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