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    Default "British Isles" makes front page of one the web's biggest sites

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    TIL I was using the wrong term all along.

    why does this term refuse to die and now it's on one of the biggest sites on the internet.
    Reddit is the site that brought so much traffic to politics.ie that is crashed.
    Now more people will be exposed to this anachronism.

    It just won't die.


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    The term was first widely used in the early 17thC when James I was trying to secure Ireland for Britain (and pave the way for eventual Union with Scotland), ie it was specifically used in a context to show that Ireland belonged to the British when a British identity was being invented, it's use in today's world is quite irredentist (i don't buy this 'geographical term' nonsense, it's political significance is obvious).

    However all the major sites and corporations use it on the web, in particular wikipedia which seems to try to fit as many uses of the term as possible into any pages that deal with matters common to both Ireland and Britain - so this is not new exactly.

    At the end of the day it is only a term which anyone can choose to ignore as they please. Although it seems designed to erase the very separate and particular Irish identity there is not much we can do to stop it's use, words can be used freely and their use by corporations would only be challenged by lobbying power which the Irish may not have (and of course there are many Irish even in the Republic who would feel warmed by the term).

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    Shock. Horror.

    Why do you scour the web looking for offence, more to the point.


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    In his book "Reformation" the historian Diarmaid MacCulloch uses the more diplomatic "Atlantic Isles" to describe our little geological gathering.
    Think it has a future?
    The Republican loons on this site will probably not be happy until they move the Greenwich Meridian to Ballyporeen.

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    It's a geographic term that's being phased out. It's mostly used these days when small people with inferiority complexes complain about people using the term.

    Your picture is from Wikipedia. You seem to think encyclopedias should only feature things you like. You're not smart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thranduil View Post

    At the end of the day it is only a term which anyone can choose to ignore as they please.
    Precisely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sync View Post
    It's a geographic term that's being phased out. It's mostly used these days when small people with inferiority complexes complain about people using the term.

    Your picture is from Wikipedia. You seem to think encyclopedias should only feature things you like. You're not smart.
    and who came up with this " geographic term"?

    I think encyclopedias should contain accurate information.

    The Irish government would have to make the term offical for it to be accurate.

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    My sig.block explains all this. Do you see people in the U.K. getting when they hear mention of "The Irish Sea"? Some people really have nothing to worry about.
    Thank you for the six thousand likes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnfás View Post
    Shock. Horror.

    Why do you scour the web looking for offence, more to the point.

    You might have a point if it was called the Spanish Peninsula and not the Iberian, the term Iberian is not specific to one of the two (three if you include Andorra) countries there as 'British Isles' is. It is a neutral term, in addition the history of one member attacking, oppressing and trying to claim the other is not as strong as it is in the history of the British Isles and Ireland. The term Iberian is truly ancient and widely and continuously used throughout history, the term British Isles has only one ancient use by a third party explorer who used it in a different context, it was never used except in one mention by one explorer and then in the early 17thC by the British who used it to re-enforce their territorial claims to Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YesSireeeBob View Post
    and who came up with this " geographic term"?
    The ancient Greeks.

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