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    Default Indentured Slavery still alive in Ireland

    Tens of thousands of Irish people were forced into indentured slavery in the Americas over the centuries. One would think therefore, that the Irish will find such a vile practice repulsive - but not the psychotically criminal free state oligarchy:

    The Minister for Labour Affairs has ruled out changing the system to allow migrant workers the right to freely change employer.

    Under the current system, employment permit holders are only allowed to work for the employer named on their permit and are only allowed to seek a change of employer after a 12-month period.

    Dara Calleary told the Oireachtas Enterprise Committee that there were sufficient safeguards in the legislation introduced in 2006 to ensure that permits are only issued in the name of bone fide employers.

    Minister Calleary said the improvements introduced to protect migrant workers are considerable but he emphasised that the need to retain the link to the employer was essential.

    Calleary rules out migrant work system change - RT News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cael View Post
    Tens of thousands of Irish people were forced into indentured slavery in the Americas over the centuries. One would think therefore, that the Irish will find such a vile practice repulsive - but not the psychotically criminal free state oligarchy:

    The Minister for Labour Affairs has ruled out changing the system to allow migrant workers the right to freely change employer.

    Under the current system, employment permit holders are only allowed to work for the employer named on their permit and are only allowed to seek a change of employer after a 12-month period.

    Dara Calleary told the Oireachtas Enterprise Committee that there were sufficient safeguards in the legislation introduced in 2006 to ensure that permits are only issued in the name of bone fide employers.

    Minister Calleary said the improvements introduced to protect migrant workers are considerable but he emphasised that the need to retain the link to the employer was essential.

    Calleary rules out migrant work system change - RT News
    'To Hell or Barbados' is a book to read for you so. Many of the irish were slaveholders in America too. I've recently found evidence that one of my ancestors was one of these slave-masters.

    http://www.amazon.com/Hell-Barbados-.../dp/0863222870
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goban Saor View Post
    If its voluntary it is not slavery.
    Indeed. Ridiculous (even by Caels standards) to call this slavery - If they don't like it they can go home.

    It's an absolute scandal that the government is still allowing migrant workers into the country given the high and rising levels of unemployment in the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigris Celtica View Post
    Indeed. Ridiculous (even by Caels standards) to call this slavery - If they don't like it they can go home.

    It's an absolute scandal that the government is still allowing migrant workers into the country given the high and rising levels of unemployment in the country.
    They are here to do the jobs that Cael wont do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telemachus View Post
    'To Hell or Barbados' is a book to read for you so. Many of the irish were slaveholders in America too. I've recently found evidence that one of my ancestors was one of these slave-masters.

    Amazon.com: To Hell or Barbados: The Ethnic Cleansing of Ireland (9780863222870): Sean O'Callaghan: Books: Reviews, Prices & more
    You have an interesting background,any connection between the Slave Master,and the retired millionaire uncle in the US?

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    Indentured servitude might be a more accurate term Cael.

    While living in Romania at the beginning of the decade for an extended period of time I had first hand experience of how 'recruitment' was carried out. Remember that in countries outside of the EU (afaik) the work visa explicitly states the conditions of work, in particular the exact end user company.

    It was routine for the outfit I saw first hand to make demands of the people on the other end of the line. These included large cash payments, where average wages of 100 USD per month were considered good incomes. The cash payments often exceeded 1000 USD, or if that was not forthcoming then the deeds to a property in the names of the parents would do nicely.

    It was also routine for sexual favours to be accepted from females. I saw this with my own eyes and knew in some detail how the operation worked, I'd made it my business to understand what this operation was up to as they wanted me to help with interviewing specialist staff.

    So a very sordid business, that is still going on no doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idle tim View Post
    You have an interesting background,any connection between the Slave Master,and the retired millionaire uncle in the US?
    Only the same as my connection, the slave-holder if he was at all (I have only established so far that he was close friends with very powerful figures in the US south in the early 17th century, would have been from an earlier wave of emigration to the US. Irish records of my own family only go back to the early part of the 1800's; like most irish peoples records do (due to the information of people like sean lemass we know the 1916 insurgents stupidly used the fourcourts thousand year records archive as an ammunition store)

    At some point in the future cheap chromosonal gene tests will be most helpful for people to identify their ancestry thanks be to god.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telemachus View Post
    'To Hell or Barbados' is a book to read for you so. Many of the irish were slaveholders in America too. I've recently found evidence that one of my ancestors was one of these slave-masters.

    Amazon.com: To Hell or Barbados: The Ethnic Cleansing of Ireland (9780863222870): Sean O'Callaghan: Books: Reviews, Prices & more
    I've read it a chara, and a very brave effort. Is amazing how professional historians have stayed away from this subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goban Saor View Post
    If its voluntary it is not slavery.
    They said the Irish in Barbados went voluntary as well. Absolutely rubbish.

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