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    Last week, Fine Gael endorsed a Bill to extend the range of bodies with the right to nominate candidates for election to the Senate. This was in spite of the fact that Enda Kenny believes the Senate should be abolished. Please, who is fooling who?????

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    So, what else will he change his mind on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetruthsback View Post
    Last week, Fine Gael endorsed a Bill to extend the range of bodies with the right to nominate candidates for election to the Senate. This was in spite of the fact that Enda Kenny believes the Senate should be abolished. Please, who is fooling who?????
    The next Dil will have a Seanad. FG can't abolish the Seanad before they're in power. The test will come if they are in power as to whether they abolish the Seanad for the following Dil.

    The Seanad is mentioned in a great many articles of the constitution. To 'abolish' it FG would virtually have to produce a new constitution. I think they'll realise that and will neuter it through legislation instead.
    "A govt big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have" Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeDroit View Post
    The next Dil will have a Seanad. FG can't abolish the Seanad before they're in power. The test will come if they are in power as to whether they abolish the Seanad for the following Dil.

    The Seanad is mentioned in a great many articles of the constitution. To 'abolish' it FG would virtually have to produce a new constitution. I think they'll realise that and will neuter it through legislation instead.
    Thanks for the explanation but shouldn't a future Taoiseach have known all that information before shot his mouth off???

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeDroit View Post
    The next Dil will have a Seanad. FG can't abolish the Seanad before they're in power. The test will come if they are in power as to whether they abolish the Seanad for the following Dil.

    The Seanad is mentioned in a great many articles of the constitution. To 'abolish' it FG would virtually have to produce a new constitution. I think they'll realise that and will neuter it through legislation instead.
    A referendum????
    (SIGH!)
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    I'm sure that in time if and when folk vote in Inda & the Gang or/and Happy Gilmore & Crew to take over the reins that they'll find nothing will dramatically change despite what folk might hope for/aspire towards and perhaps even what the newly voted in might hoped for/aspired towards (or some of them)

    plus a change, plus c'est la mme chose


    Change of the Guard is all it shall be folks - don't get too excited now

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    Quote Originally Posted by spidermom View Post
    A referendum????
    (SIGH!)
    No need for a referendum if he circumvents the existing structures. He can't minimise the number of senators, reduce their sitting time, ignore their rulings, refuse to consider their legislative musings etc. The Seanad will be gone in all but name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Well View Post
    I'm sure that in time if and when folk vote in Inda & the Gang or/and Happy Gilmore & Crew to take over the reins that they'll find nothing will dramatically change despite what folk might hope for/aspire towards and perhaps even what the newly voted in might hoped for/aspired towards (or some of them)

    plus a change, plus c'est la mme chose

    I really think its time to dust-down the Grandfathers riffle and head for the hills with the column again. Anyone, up for a rising?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Well View Post
    I'm sure that in time if and when folk vote in Inda & the Gang or/and Happy Gilmore & Crew to take over the reins that they'll find nothing will dramatically change despite what folk might hope for/aspire towards and perhaps even what the newly voted in might hoped for/aspired towards (or some of them)

    plus a change, plus c'est la mme chose


    Change of the Guard is all it shall be folks - don't get too excited now
    Agree...but not....the new crowd will be as you stated(undoubtedly)....but I refuse to believe that everything will be the same....mind you the tax increases,spending cuts and misery will be the same...!!!....

    Quote Originally Posted by LeDroit View Post
    No need for a referendum if he circumvents the existing structures. He can't minimise the number of senators, reduce their sitting time, ignore their rulings, refuse to consider their legislative musings etc. The Seanad will be gone in all but name.
    presume you meant he CAN...minimise...reduce...ignore...refuse...(?)

    (actually is that not what happens now????)
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetruthsback View Post
    I really think its time to dust-down the Grandfathers riffle and head for the hills with the column again. Anyone, up for a rising?
    Have you a licence for it?

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