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    We were all told that Michael Noonan would land the punches on Brian Lenihan that Richard Bruton allegedly failed to land.

    No evidence of that to date.

    He poo-pooed Simon Coveneys New Era document in an effort to show that he wasn't too impressed by the young kids on the block - even one who is losing a bit of hair.

    Now he tries to play cute hoor and says that if the growth rate is over 4% then only 9 billion in cuts will be needed. When will he realise that after the mother of all property bubbles and the greatest bank collapse of all time, excepting Iceland, that all you get is a decade of stagnation. Even with the competitiveness reforms that FG champion, we will be lucky to get 2.75%, so great has been the success of FF policies to destroy the country.

    So Michael Noonan - where is the beef?
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    He's a lot better than Bruton
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    In comparison to Lenihan who got everything wrong i think he is quite good. He is acting responsibly unlike Gilmore and the Whine. He has a bit of gravitas that Bruton lacked .
    You'd think Kenny committed Treason and brought in IMF. Cowen had all in stitches in Galway at 3.30a.m.but he was "not impaired" -DD Power. FF=Publican páirtí an IMF.

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    Actually, I think Noonan has been pretty good.

    He has a slightly more combative edge that Richard maybe dosen't have.

    He put manners on that FF'er Brian Dobson pretty lively on 6:1 recently
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    Now considering we have/had the two worst Finance ministers (Clowen-Lendahand) it amazes me that neither Noonan or Bruton have ever landed even a body shot of significance to Bill and Ben,i mean FFS they are there for the taking yet neither can step up to the plate???And please don't tell that supporting the comedy of 3% by 2014 is stepping up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flavirostris View Post
    Actually, I think Noonan has been pretty good.

    He has a slightly more combative edge that Richard maybe dosen't have.
    Gilmore has the showman angle covered, we need someone with a bit of original thinking to get us out of the current mess. Noonan is like Lenihan, totally dependent on his briefers - Bruton is the man we need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droghedasouth View Post
    We were all told that Michael Noonan would land the punches on Brian Lenihan that Richard Bruton allegedly failed to land.

    No evidence of that to date.
    Remember that Noonan is only in the job because Bruton botched the heave and O'Donnell knifed Kenny within 48 hours of succeeding him. He's a long way below his peak but he probably realises that he's only a place holder. It's all but certain that Lab will get Finance in the next government and he's not likely to feature in Kenny's cabinet line up. Why kill yourself when you can sit back and take the CC job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    Gilmore has the showman angle covered, we need someone with a bit of original thinking to get us out of the current mess. Noonan is like Lenihan, totally dependent on his briefers - Bruton is the man we need.
    Don't disagree, but Bruton is no longer Finance Spokesperson, is he? And at least Noonan is pushing with his terrier tone, which is good. Noonan is not Gilmore after all. He is at least nibbling away at the complacency that exists now amongst the opposition.

    But where is Mr. Kenny???

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    Quote Originally Posted by droghedasouth View Post
    We were all told that Michael Noonan would land the punches on Brian Lenihan that Richard Bruton allegedly failed to land.

    No evidence of that to date.

    He poo-pooed Simon Coveneys New Era document in an effort to show that he wasn't too impressed by the young kids on the block - even one who is losing a bit of hair.

    Now he tries to play cute hoor and says that if the growth rate is over 4% then only 9 billion in cuts will be needed. When will he realise that after the mother of all property bubbles and the greatest bank collapse of all time, excepting Iceland, that all you get is a decade of stagnation. Even with the competitiveness reforms that FG champion, we will be lucky to get 2.75%, so great has been the success of FF policies to destroy the country.

    So Michael Noonan - where is the beef?

    I like Noonan and I would have far greater regard for him than for Bruton or any of the rest of the motley FG crew - but, if FF presented us with a scenario based on 4% growth rates the air around here would be blue. If the adjustments are heavily front loaded and we get very good international rates of growth then it might be possible to have a fresh look at the figures in 2 years time, but now is not the time for unjustified optimism in pursuit of an alternative, more electorally palatable strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asset test View Post
    But where is Mr. Kenny???
    He can't afford another drop in the leaders approval polls so he's keeping out of the public eye.

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