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    Default Welcome Done Dermot Ahern: Ireland Drops 9 Places for Press Freedom

    Who says individuals can't have an impact?

    Ireland drops nine places in press index over blasphemy law - The Irish Times - Wed, Oct 27, 2010

    IRELAND’S BLASPHEMY law has caused it to fall from joint first to 10th place in the 2010 Reporters Sans Frontičres Press Freedom Index.

    Last year, the Paris-based organisation, which measures freedom of the press around the globe, ranked Ireland in joint-first position with Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden. Ireland had jumped from joint fourth in 2008, and from eighth place in 2007.

    “Obviously the situation in relation to press freedom in general in Ireland is quite good, but Ireland lost a lot of points this year due to the blasphemy legislation,” the organisation’s Olivier Basille told The Irish Times . “The possible consequences of this law, both in Ireland and internationally, are very worrying.”
    Brilliant. One of the few things we had to be proud of, and FF can't even leave that alone.

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    What's happening with the referendum to remove that?
    While we're at it we should remove all references to god from the constitution, I'm pretty sure there no references to other mythical figures in it.

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    It was a rubbish index in the first place - still is - because it fails to take proper account of how Irish and UK defamation law does far more to restrain good reporting than any amount of blasphemy laws. Defamation law hardly appears on the survey and is scored pretty low in the methodology.

    http://en.rsf.org/IMG/pdf/cm_questionnaire_2010_gb.pdf

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    Ha. I love #30:

    Unjustified dismissals of journalists in the state-owned media?

    The RTE News Room/FF Press Office are all lifers, so we are considered more "free" for that.

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    It was a rubbish index in the first place - still is - because it fails to take proper account of how Irish and UK defamation law does far more to restrain good reporting than any amount of blasphemy laws.
    That's a very good point, and would love to hear an answer from Reporters Sans Frontičres about it.

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    I'm unsure what to make of global surveys like this one and the corruption rankings published earlier. Judging from Ireland alone ,they both show a lack of awareness of local nuances. Any reporter in Ireland who fears prosecution under the blasphemy law is mentally deficient; everyone acknowledges the thing as bogus and unenforceable. The above-mentioned defamation laws and other issues seem to have escaped analysis too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splashy View Post
    I'm unsure what to make of global surveys like this one and the corruption rankings published earlier. Judging from Ireland alone ,they both show a lack of awareness of local nuances. Any reporter in Ireland who fears prosecution under the blasphemy law is mentally deficient; everyone acknowledges the thing as bogus and unenforceable. The above-mentioned defamation laws and other issues seem to have escaped analysis too.
    Is their any mention of how journalists here, restrain themselves to:-
    1) please their owners/advertisers.
    2) ensure continued supply of briefings by the government.
    3) in hope of getting appointed to a government quango etc?
    4) because it us such a small place and we all have to get along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Congalltee View Post
    Is their any mention of how journalists here, restrain themselves to:-
    1) please their owners/advertisers.
    2) ensure continued supply of briefings by the government.
    3) in hope of getting appointed to a government quango etc?
    4) because it us such a small place and we all have to get along.
    From RSF's website:
    The questionnaire was sent to Reporters Without Borders’ partner organisations (15 freedom of
    expression groups in all five continents), to its network of 140 correspondents around the world,
    and to journalists, researchers, jurists and human rights activists. A scale devised by the
    organisation was then used to give a countryscore to each questionnaire.
    Questionnaire here: http://en.rsf.org/IMG/pdf/cm_questionnaire_2010_gb.pdf

    The questions focus more on blatant influence than the subtle effects you've listed, C.


    Mind the caveat:
    The index should in no way be taken as an indication of the quality of the press in the
    countries concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Congalltee View Post
    Is their any mention of how journalists here, restrain themselves to:-
    1) please their owners/advertisers.
    2) ensure continued supply of briefings by the government.
    3) in hope of getting appointed to a government quango etc?
    4) because it us such a small place and we all have to get along.
    1) Yes - read up on the methodology
    2 & 4) These aren't restrictions on press freedom, but reflections on how easily journalists go with the flow
    3) Have many journalists been given cushy appointments? John Horgan (Press Ombudsman) and Emily O'Reilly (Ombudsman) weren't generally seen as soft on the government, unlike arch-defender of Bertie, Eoghan Harris (Senate). Of course, Harris was an opinion writer rather than a reporting journalist.

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