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    Default 108 People's Liberation Army veterans call for release of Maoist activist.

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    Declaration of the Concerned Group of 108 Veterans of the original 68th Unit and the 23rd Unit of the People's Liberation Army in Da-an City, Jilin Province on matters related to Zhao Dong-min

    Any Chinese person who has a conscience and stands for justice knows that what has happened to Zhao Dong-min has gone beyond a single incident. It has become something of political significance in today's China. It has become a test case for us to tell whether the Chinese Communist Party is a real Marxist-Leninist Party or a fake one, whether the government is a real people's government or a fake one, whether the Communists are real ones or fake ones, and whether or not those in the government are actually serving the people.
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    Quite brave of them to take a stand like that. The Chinese aren't known for taking this kind of dissent well. How do you anticipate this ending?
    I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty, than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (yeah, I'm aware of the irony)

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    Given the balance of forces with China it could end well...The Communist Party is likely to have a majior split soon.

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    This is the text I originally posted....If anyone wants a translation PM me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SevenStars View Post
    Given the balance of forces with China it could end well...The Communist Party is likely to have a majior split soon.
    Don't see the prospective 'split' being anything that will shake up Chinese communism, but rather destroy it (assuming it is not already dead). The Communist Party of China has in all cases adopted the Russian Putin era policy of party controlled Oligarchy.

    The old guard who recently drafted a letter calling for the removal of censorship in China, as it is unconstitutional under Communist Chinas own laws, are perhaps the only hold out of the old marxist/leninist regime. The Maoists are very far removed from even them and thus have no basis upon which they can gain political traction.

    There is another dimension that hampers them too. The emergance of Maoists in Nepal has been of concern to the CCP as it established another regional politcal pole that is to the left of the Chinese government. So any reemergance of Maoists in China would be stamped out as foreign (ironically) and immediatly subject to the ire of Chinese nationalists, who are neither marxist nor maoists. The powerful strand of Chinese nationalism present in China today plays into the hands of the current beijing government. Anyone really going to argue that street protests in China, the most recent over the spat in Japan, are aimed at expanding Communism or any hue of leftism?

    Chinas internal political dynamics cannot be viewed in terms of left vs more left. In truth, as I have pointed out before, the Chinese Communist Party is controlled by aparachiks that can even censor the Chinese Primeminister. With that kind of unquestioned political power, tight control over multi-trillion dollor industries and an expending military, what hope do either the old party marxists or Maoists have? They have absolutely none. The old Maoists and Marxist are dying and when they are gone the last actual vestige of idiological communism still lingering in the Chinese system will die with them. China will be the most gigantic tomb ever contructed for socialism in much the same say as it is becoming a titanic monument to far right nationalism.

    The result of any power struggle at the top in China will only yield one certain result; whoever wins will not be a socialist, but will have gigantic wealth and tight control over the media and military. There is huge scope for reform in China without ever having to broach the concepts of democracy. In fact I would say that reform looks likely to deliever Oligarchy fuelled by popularist nationalism, an extemsion of what is happening right now. The international dimension to Marxist/Leninism points to it being ultimitely a victim of Chinese popularist nationalism, not any type of future alternative.

    Marxism is a cosmetic smudge on the face of China today, that is only used to define and deploy institutional control over the populace. Any 'poliitcal' shake up in China will simply remove shallow marxism to reveal a nationalism and overtly right wing regime. Any perception that marxist/leninism or even Maoism could have an decernable effect on Chinese politics today is risible.
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