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    Something that drives me crazy, and Dermot Ahern just repeated it on the News at One on RTE 1 Radio, when discussing the forthcoming budget and the economic crisis generally, is their CONSTANT use of phrases such as "WE are all suffering" "WE are all in this together" and "WE are all feeling the pain". Harney an others have also used the phrase.

    Now, I have news for Dermot, HE is not suffering, HE has an enormous, even with the cut taken, Ministerial salary, HE has a gold plated pension, HE has, still, a huge expenses regeime. HE, when FF/Greens loose the forthcoming election, will NOT suffer. HE will STILL have his Dail salary and a MASSIVE gold plated, index linked, pension if he looses his seat.

    Dermot, et al, YOU are NOT suffering and you WILL NOT suffer. YOU are not in this with us. YOU are exempt you cretinous hack. PLEASE desist from talking down to those of us who HAVE suffered, ARE suffering and WILL suffer more.

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    But, of course, it makes perfect sense. The "we" referes to the minister and his Puppet Masters - the landed oligarchy and their bankers. Good to see FF being honest about something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corelli View Post
    Something that drives me crazy, and Dermot Ahern just repeated it on the News at One on RTE 1 Radio, when discussing the forthcoming budget and the economic crisis generally, is their CONSTANT use of phrases such as "WE are all suffering" "WE are all in this together" and "WE are all feeling the pain". Harney an others have also used the phrase.

    Now, I have news for Dermot, HE is not suffering, HE has an enormous, even with the cut taken, Ministerial salary, HE has a gold plated pension, HE has, still, a huge expenses regeime. HE, when FF/Greens loose the forthcoming election, will NOT suffer. HE will STILL have his Dail salary and a MASSIVE gold plated, index linked, pension if he looses his seat.

    Dermot, et al, YOU are NOT suffering and you WILL NOT suffer. YOU are not in this with us. YOU are exempt you cretinous hack. PLEASE desist from talking down to those of us who HAVE suffered, ARE suffering and WILL suffer more.

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    I had noticed that too. Tis annoying alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toland View Post
    I had noticed that too. Tis annoying alright.
    +1. And the "we" they never say is the "We caused the whole sorry mess".

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    It is truly sickening. They call themselves the republican party but actually see themselves as royalty. They have been in power for too long, far too long.

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    Thumbs up Great post.

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    Great post corelli

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    Its a frustration all right when you think of the money these people are still on and then the pain they inflict on others.

    Another irritant is ministers talking of money spent using the term "I spent" like its their own money.

    Ive already spent 50 million on such an area etc...

    No you havent...the taxpayers have.
    I believe that children are the future

    Unless we stop them now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corelli View Post
    Something that drives me crazy, and Dermot Ahern just repeated it on the News at One on RTE 1 Radio, when discussing the forthcoming budget and the economic crisis generally, is their CONSTANT use of phrases such as "WE are all suffering" "WE are all in this together" and "WE are all feeling the pain". Harney an others have also used the phrase.

    Now, I have news for Dermot, HE is not suffering, HE has an enormous, even with the cut taken, Ministerial salary, HE has a gold plated pension, HE has, still, a huge expenses regeime. HE, when FF/Greens loose the forthcoming election, will NOT suffer. HE will STILL have his Dail salary and a MASSIVE gold plated, index linked, pension if he looses his seat.

    Dermot, et al, YOU are NOT suffering and you WILL NOT suffer. YOU are not in this with us. YOU are exempt you cretinous hack. PLEASE desist from talking down to those of us who HAVE suffered, ARE suffering and WILL suffer more.

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    It is a Fianna Fáil tactic to try to spread the blame - so "we" all made the mistake, not just Fianna Fáil.

    The "we" changes depending on who they are spreading the blame to.

    So when talking about politics, the "we" is all politicians including the opposition, despite the fact that people like Richard Bruton were warning the government from 2002 that their policies were wrong and would cause a crash.

    When talking about wild spending, the "we" becomes all the people of Ireland.

    The aim is simple - to say nothing is ever Fianna Fáil's fault so "don't blame us for everything."
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    The misuse of language is one of the main weapons of policians. Irish politicians do not solve problems nor are they really expected to. Their employers are not the people but in fact their political parties. Their job is to get elected, nothing more nothing less. Expecting anything more of them is quite frankly unfair.

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    We are where we are

    We have turned the corner

    We are all to blame


    We will re-elect Fianna FAIL, of that I have no doubt

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