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    BBC News - French Senate passes pension bill

    The French Senate has passed a controversial pension reform bill, which has caused a series of strikes and protests around France.

    The senators approved President Nicolas Sarkozy's plan to raise the retirement age from 60 to 62, and it could become law as early as next week.

    Mr Sarkozy says the measure is necessary to reduce the deficit.
    The unions are unhappy. Still occupying 11 petrol depots, despite 1 of them being cleared out earlier. They've also scheduled 2 more strike days on 28 October and 6 November. So lots of fun ahead in France.
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    Well ,it should be very interesting.
    The syndicats will not accept the humiliation,but if they are wise they will not interrupt this weeks 'toussaints' holiday,and make pay back time
    a subtle matter,well thought out.
    It will be one of the most important elections for many years,and decide France's long term future.
    Sarko was voted in the last time to get the economy 'going',and so Royal
    and the more socially soft candidates lost out to percieved 'power'.
    Now I think there will be bitterness and revenge in the choice of President , and a very big participation at grass roots level perhaps bringing in new candidates.
    If they had won it would have been more or less 'business' as usual,but this changes everything,and has made a revolutionary confrontation
    most likely .
    The unions [people ] will not accept it ,not in the longer term ,and
    it is truly fascinating to watch COUTRY LIKE FRANCE DO POLITICS.
    Whatever ennui had set in should be replaced by a deeper resolve,A REVIVING OF INTEREST IN POLITICAL LIFE.

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    So French people will have to work until they are 62; Oh-my-god! No wonder children as young as 15 are out throwing bricks at the police.

    The French Unions are clearly codding themselves and I think have squandered alot of their credability (and energy) a minor adjustment to what is still a very early retirement age. Even without this recession and the fiscal 'pinch', retirement ages were surely set to go up anyway? Such moves in terms of retirement age adjustment were clearly telegraphed as inevitable even during the boom years. If anything the French can expect the rise in the retirement age again to something more akin to the European average. Oh l'horreur!

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    Sarkozy should stop appeasing the unions and should go in lock,stock and barrel and clear out the remaining 11 oil refineries, baton charge these union militants and shed blood if necessary not fatal of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by True Republican View Post
    Sarkozy should stop appeasing the unions and should go in lock,stock and barrel and clear out the remaining 11 oil refineries, baton charge these union militants and shed blood if necessary not fatal of course.
    +100

    The State needs to exert it's authority and show these deluded 19th century theocrats that they don't control the country anymore. Time for Monsieur Sarkozy to do a Thatcher.
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    Retiring at 60 is ridiculous. The average life expectancy is 81.5 years in France. Add to that, the numbers of children/teenagers/young adults in full time education, the sick and those on welfare and you now have a very high dependent population. So basically, you work and contribute only about half your life. It would become more and more difficult as the years go by to keep that up. It was simply a necessary step.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_93 View Post
    Retiring at 60 is ridiculous. The average life expectancy is 81.5 years in France. Add to that, the numbers of children/teenagers/young adults in full time education, the sick and those on welfare and you now have a very high dependent population. So basically, you work and contribute only about half your life. It would become more and more difficult as the years go by to keep that up. It was simply a necessary step.
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    In Ireland it's going up by 3 years and it was only a small news story. France really is the bitchiest European country going. Thankfully they're not in the same situation as Greece or the strikes would be 24h non-stop and there would be deaths. On both sides.

    Sarkosy needs to do a Thatcher +1. There's no way he's getting re-elected in 2012 so he might as well go all out and sort out the unions and the budget once and for all.

    France goes to show what happens when we let "civil society" run the show. They're just a bunch of unelected whinge-bags who don't know a thing about economics.

    Ireland's own group is having a meeting in the RDS at the end of the month: "Claiming our Future" (probably at the expense of mine)

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    While I admire the French's revolutionary and socialist spirit, this is a necessary step, and had to come at some point. I wish we took to the streets with flaming torches - not this boring old ballot box sh1te.

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    Default Sarkozy will win the battle,but lose the war.

    I have heard that the strikes are now on the wane.I sense that Sarkozy will win this battle,but he will have a bloody nose at the end of the dispute.Sarkozy will win this battle,but he will be very much weakend and after that he will emerge as a lame duck president and his chances of re-election in 2012 very much reduced.

    Sarkozy has won the battle,but I think he will lose the war come 2012.

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