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    The Republicans are funding a Hispanic lobby group urging Latinos to stay-at-home the day of the November elections. The group ran the ads on the Spanish language cable channel Univision and are primarily targeted at Nevada and other states with large Hispanic populations. The ad urges voters to stay at home due to failed promises by politicians to introduce comprehensive immigration reform.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XEg84Rywkg]YouTube - 'Don't Vote' Ad Outrages Hispanic Voters[/ame]

    If this is what the Republicans are resorting to, they'd be better off giving up democracy altogether. The party was courting Latinos when Bush was in power, but since then the Republicans have discarded them, and preyed on hostility towards them.

    If the Democrats have any cop on they would seize this opportunity to lock up the Latino vote for a generation.

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    This is Politics. Why are you shocked. They'll say and do whatever it takes it's the same the world over. wake up
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    Quote Originally Posted by eoghanacht View Post
    This is Politics. Why are you shocked. They'll say and do whatever it takes it's the same the world over. wake up
    Don't be ridiculous. If they ran an ad urging blacks, or Jews, or women not to vote there would be uproar. The fact that this campaign is in Spanish allows them to cover their tracks, but they still got found out and were forced to pull it.
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    She's hot, is she Latino or what? Maybe Latino-Asian or something? Anyway, yeah, it's very naughty alright. Won't work though, quite possibly would have the opposite effect. When you tell people they shouldn't do something, well.............The conservative forces of evil will have to do better than that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubensni View Post
    Don't be ridiculous. If they ran an ad urging blacks, or Jews, or women not to vote there would be uproar. The fact that this campaign is in Spanish allows them to cover their tracks, but they still got found out and were forced to pull it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rubensni View Post
    If this is what the Republicans are resorting to, they'd be better off giving up democracy altogether. The party was courting Latinos when Bush was in power, but since then the Republicans have discarded them, and preyed on hostility towards them.
    Any sane US voter would be seeking to limit Mexican immigration. Their persistent, intergenerational, underachievement is creating a massive problem for the once prosperous state of California.

    For a closer glimpse of what's in store for California, look at the Los Angeles Unified School District, the largest in California and the second largest in the country. Of its roughly 700,000 students, almost three-quarters are Hispanic, 8.9 percent are white, and 11.2 percent are black. More than half of the Latino students (about 300,000) are "English learners" and, depending on whether you believe the district or independent scholars, anywhere between a third and a half drop out of high school, following significant attrition in middle school. A recent study by UC Santa Barbara's California Dropout Research Project estimates that high-school dropouts in 2007 alone will cost the state $24.2 billion in future economic losses.

    The unhappy picture in Los Angeles is replicated to one degree or another across much of California and is taking a huge toll on the state's economic competitiveness and long-term prospects. California's educational system, once easily the best in the country, is today mired in mediocrity near the bottom among the 50 states as judged by National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) tests in math, science, reading, and writing. And for the first time in its history, California is experiencing an increase in adult illiteracy. In 2003, it had the highest adult illiteracy in the United States, 23 percent nearly 50 percent higher than a decade earlier. In some counties (Imperial at 41 percent, Los Angeles at 33 percent) illiteracy approaches sub-Saharan levels.

    Perhaps even more important than the collapse of educational achievement among the lower strata is a deterioration of the higher education that was for decades the basis of California's preeminence in science and technology. California currently ranks 40th among the 50 states in college-attendance rates, and it already faces a significant shortage of college graduates. Studies have shown that the economy will need 40 percent of its workers to be college-educated by 2020, compared with today's 32 percent. Given the aging white population (average age, 42), many of these new graduates will have to come from the burgeoning Latino immigrant population (average age, 26). By one estimate, this would require tripling of the number of college-educated immigrants, an impossibility if current trends hold. The state's inability to improve the educational attainment of its residents will result in a "substantial decline in per capita income" and "place California last among the 50 states" by 2020, according to a study by the National Center for Higher Education Management Systems...

    One myth is that because America is a country of immigrants and has successfully absorbed waves of immigration in the past, it can absorb this wave. But the argument neglects two key differences between past waves and the current influx. First, the immigrant population is more than double today what it was following the most massive previous immigration wave (that of the late 19th century). Second, and much more important, as scholars from the Manhattan Institute have shown, earlier immigrants were much more likely to bring with them useful skills. Some Hispanic immigrants certainly do integrate, but most do not. Research has shown that even after 20 years in the country, most illegal aliens (the overwhelming majority of whom are Hispanic) and their children remain poor, unskilled, and culturally isolated they constitute a new permanent underclass.
    National Review Online: Stop Illegals, Save CA : NPR

    As Jason Richwine writes:

    Theyíre not just like the Irish ó or the Italians or the Poles, for that matter. The large influx of Hispanic immigrants after 1965 represents a unique assimilation challenge for the United States. Many optimistic observers have assumed ó incorrectly, it turns out ó that Hispanic immigrants will follow the same economic trajectory European immigrants did in the early part of the last century. Many of those Europeans came to America with no money and few skills, but their status steadily improved. Their children outperformed them, and their childrenís children were often indistinguishable from the ďfounding stock.Ē The speed of economic assimilation varied somewhat by ethnic group, but three generations were typically enough to turn ďethnicsĒ into plain old Americans...

    ďPeople used to say the Irish or the Poles would always be poor, but look at them today!Ē For Hispanics, we are led to believe, the same thing will happen.

    But that claim isnít true. Though about three-quarters of Hispanics living in the U.S. today are either immigrants or the children of immigrants, a significant number have roots here going back many generations. We have several ways to measure their intergenerational progress, and the results leave little room for optimism about their prospects for assimilation...

    The consequences of a large ethno-cultural groupís lagging behind the majority in education and income are significant. In strictly economic terms, perpetually poor immigrants and their descendants will be a major strain on social spending and infrastructure. Health care, public education, welfare payments, the criminal justice system, and programs for affordable housing will all require more tax dollars. When pro-immigration conservatives declare that these government programs should be scaled back or eliminated entirely, I am sympathetic. But a large public sector is a reality that cannot be wished away ó we will not be abolishing Medicaid or public schools anytime soon. Immigration policy needs to take that reality into account.
    http://nrd.nationalreview.com/articl...ZjMWZiZDY4YzQ=
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    Quote Originally Posted by rubensni View Post
    The Republicans are funding a Hispanic lobby group urging Latinos to stay-at-home the day of the November elections. The group ran the ads on the Spanish language cable channel Univision and are primarily targeted at Nevada and other states with large Hispanic populations. The ad urges voters to stay at home due to failed promises by politicians to introduce comprehensive immigration reform.

    YouTube - 'Don't Vote' Ad Outrages Hispanic Voters

    If this is what the Republicans are resorting to, they'd be better off giving up democracy altogether. The party was courting Latinos when Bush was in power, but since then the Republicans have discarded them, and preyed on hostility towards them.

    If the Democrats have any cop on they would seize this opportunity to lock up the Latino vote for a generation.

    It is a little condescending to think, that Hispanics cannot discern for themselves as to whether they should vote or not.

    I am sure they do not need the GREAT white Bwanna such as you to be their protector.


    There are a myriad of political adds on both radio and television, attempting to persuade either side to vote a certain way. Hispanics are adults, and can make up their own minds.

    I don't think your patronizing concern is warranted.

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    Very clever. Mucho gusto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ” Donnchadha View Post
    It is a little condescending to think, that Hispanics cannot discern for themselves as to whether they should vote or not.
    Exactly. Begs the question as to why the Republicans running these ads then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rubensni View Post
    Exactly. Begs the question as to why the Republicans running these ads then?

    I am going to reveal a great secret. Its called politics. I mean lets be real. The Democrats counter with equally egregious messages. They often scare the elderly, with the time worn refrain, that the Republicans want to take away their health care and social security.


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