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Thread: Gems of Irish 'Justice' ?

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    Default Gems of Irish 'Justice' ?

    Reading a post in the media section I came upon this post where Cael stated the state " had a legal system where you had to be a male property owner to even sit on a jury (until 1975 when Mary Robinson defeated that - thanks David McWilliams for that info) " which I presume is true.

    Therefore, those of you with a good legal knowledge, what other quaint little laws and practises did we have/still have that you think would belong to the middle ages or Victorian era and are still around ?

    http://www.politics.ie/media/140739-...ml#post3091116

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    Can you not be a judge if you are atheist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlabMurphy View Post
    had a legal system where you had to be a male property owner to even sit on a jury
    That's because a jury is meant to be made up of your peers.
    Someone living in a council house couldn't really be considered the peer of someone who owns a house...and women...well, less said there, the better


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingersoll View Post
    Can you not be a judge if you are atheist?
    The constitution says to be a judge or the president, you need to swear an oath...some of it to god.
    I wrote to all my Wicklow TDs within the last 2 months asking about this.
    Apparently, there is a modified oath that can be given, with no mention of god or gods, so you can be a judge or the pres even if you're a heathen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyEdo View Post
    The constitution says to be a judge or the president, you need to swear an oath...some of it to god.
    I wrote to all my Wicklow TDs within the last 2 months asking about this.
    Apparently, there is a modified oath that can be given, with no mention of god or gods, so you can be a judge or the pres even if you're a heathen!
    When I was being sworn in to a jury in '97, I told them I was atheist and was asked instead to repeat the "affirmation". They didn't bat an eyelid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyEdo View Post
    That's because a jury is meant to be made up of your peers.
    Someone living in a council house couldn't really be considered the peer of someone who owns a house...and women...well, less said there, the better

    Consider yourself severely punished. I think the latest gem, if gem it could be called, is the case where four brave men battered a woman to death with golf clubs, but because of a glitch in the time they were held, they cannot be charged with murder.

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    Our right to silence seems to have disappeared.

    Silence can be interpreted as or infer guilt (Offences Against the State (Amendment) Act, 1998)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyEdo View Post
    The constitution says to be a judge or the president, you need to swear an oath...some of it to god.
    I wrote to all my Wicklow TDs within the last 2 months asking about this.
    Apparently, there is a modified oath that can be given, with no mention of god or gods, so you can be a judge or the pres even if you're a heathen!
    If you're giving evidence you can affirm, or swear to whatever god you believe in, but there is no modified oath for judges, or the president. If you're appointed/elected to those offices you must make the religious oath.
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