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    Listening to MI on way to work this morning - seems MfF fe*ked up again, and assumptions and tolerances in last "defining" statement on the state of the nation's finances were woefully off the mark again, as demonstrated by the Opposition's reaction to the briefing by the DoF on the budget.

    It seems that FF's desire for consensus was more about getting Lab/FG to have to tell us we're worse off than doing it themselves - Noonan was the first one I heard saying €7.5bn - what a stroke.

    Anyway - surely even the most ardent Lenihan devotees must see now that he's out of his depth and hasn't yet learned that just wishing for something doesn't make it happen. His constant mis-reading of the signs and his misinformation to us and to the markets is a real theat, so surely he needs to go.

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    Telling us all this day one would have resulted in the collapse of the economy and the country within two weeks.
    The guarantee scheme prevented the initial implosion, while the later dribbles told people - by their nature - that there was more to come.
    Anyone with a brain could see we weren't being told everything.
    I have news for you DD - we're still not being told everything.

    Had anyone else been Finance Minister, I think the mixture of pity and anger would have exploded in his face.
    Brian Lenihan's son, disgracefully treated by Haughey, had a wellspring of support to draw on to get him and us to where he is now - still standing.
    Lack-lustre leaders like Kenny can only dream about this kind of support and persons who mouth empty rhetoric without a Plan will not garner it or hold it for long if they do.

    And before you think I'm taking a cheap shot at Enda, I'm not - I happen to think he's one of the good guys, but to lead a country you need to be a great guy and a bit Machievellian to boot and we have non-existence of people like that at the moment.
    Blubber lips cannot communicate, the Labour man fronts for a party motoring forward as "the best alternative", middle class nits espousing a worker's rhetoric, Adams et al seem to have no economic policies with any credibility and the Greens have only limited competence on green matters.

    None of them are even calling for the banks to start lending again aftre being bailed out and this lack of credit is crippling our recovering.
    None of them are targetting government departments for not spending their capital budgets this year.
    That's not a credible opposition, that's a shower of supine *ankers not doing their job.

    If OTOH you think Lenihan should be replaced from within the ranks of Fianna Fáil, well I'm sorry, but I don't think much of the alternatives there either.
    Not for something like this, not in terms of choosing someone who could actually make a difference.
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    All these lies were getting Fianna FAIL through the year and closer to 2012.

    Irish people are politically illiterate.

    Most will only react if social welfare & childrens allowances are cut.

    The PS had wages cut by 10% + and barely a word. What after the next 10% cut?

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    It's pretty obvious that FF have been lying every step of the way. All BS to buy themselves more time and make people believe that things are under control.
    It's almost like when Garret's first government took office in 1981 and was told by the DoF that there was only enough money left to pay public servants for another few weeks. FF had been disguising the full extent of the horror very succesfully.
    Same strategy is in play now.

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    THe worst is over , we've turned a corner , i commend this budget to the house.

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    They all have to be replaced and that includes the opposition too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ONQ View Post
    Telling us all this day one would have resulted in the collapse of the economy and the country within two weeks.
    At least you admit that the man is a liar. Wonder where he got that from? They say the apple doesnt fall far from the tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watcher2 View Post
    They all have to be replaced and that includes the opposition too.
    You said it a chara. Both of them are nothing but sockpuppets for the landowners and their bankers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned democrat View Post
    Listening to MI on way to work this morning - seems MfF fe*ked up again, and assumptions and tolerances in last "defining" statement on the state of the nation's finances were woefully off the mark again, as demonstrated by the Opposition's reaction to the briefing by the DoF on the budget.
    They obviously had you in mind when they said, "a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing".

    This year's numbers are pretty much exactly on track. What may make the adjustment in later years larger that expected would be lower than expected economic growth and that depends on world economic growth, something, which is outside the DoF's control.
    All estimates of world growth have been lowered recently and will change again, every 3 months or so, that is the nature of estimates.

    The "nations" finances are exactly on track, as projected last December by the DoF, more than that they cannot do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cael View Post
    At least you admit that the man is a liar. Wonder where he got that from? They say the apple doesnt fall far from the tree.
    Was watching Irelands Greatest last night and they played a clip of the Presidential Election when Lenihan Senior denied, despite being caught on tape, making a phone call to the aras.

    He turned to face the camera directly and blatantly lied to the Irish people.

    The son would,nt know the truth if it whacked him on the A rse with a banjo.

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