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    There are many well established examples of state and semi-state officials getting ridiculous and frankly obscene salaries for quite ordinary jobs. To me this is the real elephant in the room as far as leading the way to becoming more competitive, and the importance of this was highlighted in the recent figures on inflation…as the rest of the country tightens it’s belt the state is actually becoming MORE expensive to run, and contributes more misery to already hard pressed tax payers – direct or indirect.
    Leaders lead, and I would expect a real leader to reduce all quangos, semi-states and public sector salaries, including TDs and ministers, to practical levels given the circumstances. Let the market decide if people no longer wish to stay in the state’s employment, but I very much doubt that someone like the CEO of the DAA would move on if his 500k + bonus was reduced to 150k, etc. Once the Celtic Tiger salaries are gone we can as a nation start to move on, but as long as the elite still retain the trappings of success while Joe Randomer struggles we’ll get nowhere.

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    A very sensible idea and not because I think the savings will get us out of any deep hole we are in but because of the impact such a decision would have on the mindset. Those in the ivory towers will have more credibility if they make such decisions.

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    Notice that in all the speculative articles about possible budget cuts, no journalist is mentioning possible cuts in politicians expenses, salaries or the pay and perks of those the opening poster is talking about

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    It would be absolutely brilliant if it happened but there is simply no way. Not without a dictatorship anyway. Turkeys won't vote for Christmas.

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    It is not just the headline salaries --add in 35 hour working weeks or less,flexi time , breaks, annual leave 30 days +, privilege days, no effective performance management ,closed recruitment & promotion system ,pension etc etc . That is the real reason why our public sector costs are so expensive compared to other countries .

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    The elephant in the room is the huge number of ps workers and pensioners paid by the state - not the salaries of the top rung.

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    Its gotta start at the top of the Celtic Pussy tree, take the perks off Ahern and let him drive himself around the place in his own car.

    Collier and his entourage at DAA next, would agree with dropping him to 10k per month and his colleagues taking similar hit, if he can get a better number elsewhere well fup off Declan and close the after you, State should rip his legal contract up or supercede it with another one.

    The politicians and semi-states ridiculous perks and salaries have to go, one by one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse View Post
    The elephant in the room is the huge number of ps workers and pensioners paid by the state - not the salaries of the top rung.
    Yes indeed - bash the public sector and give tax beaks to the bankers and PS CEO's earning €millions
    Separate Church and State

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watcher2 View Post
    A very sensible idea and not because I think the savings will get us out of any deep hole we are in but because of the impact such a decision would have on the mindset. Those in the ivory towers will have more credibility if they make such decisions.
    If the savings were just put into a special fund to give a hand to those people who are really suffering because of the mismanagement in these bodies (I know of a hospital who ordered several months supply of headed paper etc. only a couple of weeks before it became part of the HSE & had to dump it all).

    There are people out there with massive mortgages & no job, they are not eating so as to pay the mortgage. Put the money into food vouchers.

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    Heres a thread where theirs info on the top level of the public sector

    http://www.politics.ie/political-ref...ml#post3082072

    I agree that there is big room for cuts here at the top.
    Its hard to put an exact figure on it all but the savings are in the tens of millions it would also improve morale and make Ireland a fairer and better place.

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