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Thread: Sinn Fein out of the traps on the Anti water rates issue

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    Default Sinn Fein out of the traps on the Anti water rates issue

    Shinners got some good coverage in the Star ( of all papers) regarding the launch of their anti water rates web. site. Apparently there the only party completely opposed to water rates. Labour done the usual, eh yea, but no, but ehhh !!yea, but no, but...... Act. Reasons given on Web site along the lines of the following. A) Leakage, millions of gallons of water are lost due to coroded pipes, damaged infrastructure. Up to 50% of treated water !!
    B) The city councils are owed millions of Euros in uncollected commercial water rates. Collect this money and invest it in fixing the leaking pipes.
    C) The water we drink is covered in the collection of general income tax.

    Very logical arguments there !!!

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    Logical arguments from the Shinners, indeed..

    Next can we expect logical arguments applied to the economy from the Shinners?

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    The sad fact is that they (the shinners) might be right, or not - but as they are bunch of criminals and killers, it will be a cold day in hell before I can respond favorably to anything they do.

    That being said, water charges are covered by our taxes, and just where we are supposed to find the money to pay for them remains a mystery.
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    Smart stuff. They need to start hitting up the radio stations now. This actually isn't the time for SF to be rational, they should be on an election footing, trying to steal disaffected left voters from Labour. Every time Labour inch towards the centre, SF need to be there to mop up the voters.
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    As always SF are light on the true effect of these things and as Adams showed during the last election their "economic" policies are often ill thought-out..

    A) In some parts of the country there are huge leakage issues, less problems in others. As argued in another thread, water infrastructure also costs an awful lot of money.

    B) Mainly because they are punitive and it is a bit of a dumb way to pitch it considering that most business commercial rates payers come in that micro business (less than 10 people) grouping, especially if SF also claim to be pro-jobs.

    C) Guess we need to pay an awful lot more "general" tax to cover this argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingersoll View Post
    The sad fact is that they (the shinners) might be right, or not - but as they are bunch of criminals and killers, it will be a cold day in hell before I can respond favorably to anything they do.

    That being said, water charges are covered by our taxes, and just where we are supposed to find the money to pay for them remains a mystery.
    Most childish and immature post in history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ONQ View Post
    Logical arguments from the Shinners, indeed..

    Next can we expect logical arguments applied to the economy from the Shinners?
    Go to the Sinn Fein web site and read the last budget submission, Obviously one will be prepared for the next budget. if you've read them and disagree so be it , but i suspect that you have'nt and are just being lead by the nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingersoll View Post
    The sad fact is that they (the shinners) might be right, or not - but as they are bunch of criminals and killers, it will be a cold day in hell before I can respond favorably to anything they do.

    That being said, water charges are covered by our taxes, and just where we are supposed to find the money to pay for them remains a mystery.
    The people in FF/FG and Labour really have a good laugh when they read the above type of statements, even though their own Political parties emerged from killings etc. The status quo will never change with the above mentality. Water charges! here we come!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sic transit View Post
    As always SF are light on the true effect of these things and as Adams showed during the last election their "economic" policies are often ill thought-out..

    A) In some parts of the country there are huge leakage issues, less problems in others. As argued in another thread, water infrastructure also costs an awful lot of money.

    B) Mainly because they are punitive and it is a bit of a dumb move way to pitch it considering that most business commercial rates payers come in that micro business (less than 10 people) grouping, especially if SF also claim to be pro-jobs.

    C) Guess we need to pay an awful lot more "general" tax to cover this argument.
    Would you not think a right to water is equal to a right to education and health provision? General taxes pay for those so surely it should pay for drinking water?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sync View Post
    Smart stuff. They need to start hitting up the radio stations now. This actually isn't the time for SF to be rational, they should be on an election footing, trying to steal disaffected left voters from Labour. Every time Labour inch towards the centre, SF need to be there to mop up the voters.
    Quite right. Pick the demagogue issue, wrap it up as principle and start knocking on the doors. As long as everyone learns the single transferrable speech, bob's yer Onkle.

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