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    Default DADT stopped for the mo!

    Judge orders military to stop enforcing don't ask, don't tell – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs

    Now lets see if all the idiots who think there'll be an outbreak of the gay amongst the army are vindicated.

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    Can a District Judge order the Pentagon in respect of a nationwide policy ?

    Presumably this will end up in the Supreme Court ?

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    Has Bill Clinton made any comment on his rule been overturned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    Can a District Judge order the Pentagon in respect of a nationwide policy ?
    Yes as all laws are subject to review by the courts and in this case the judge in her wisdom found the law which underpinned this policy was unconstitutional


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    Presumably this will end up in the Supreme Court ?
    Very very likely!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    Can a District Judge order the Pentagon in respect of a nationwide policy ?
    He can tell the US miltary in Virginia to do it. There aren't state braches of the military, so yeah effectively he does.

    Presumably this will end up in the Supreme Court ?
    Oh yeah. The fun part of this will be watching Obama appeal against this. He wants a congressional resolution which would be more nuanced as opposed to a court ruling of "This has to end now". He's going to get killed by some of his backers for it. His own fault for not getting Congress in line for a vote.
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    fascinating to see a first world nation grapple with 3rd world issues.

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    There ya go: BBC News - US asks judge to delay gay policy ruling

    The US administration has asked a judge to stay her order lifting a ban on gay people serving openly in the US military, pending an appeal.

    Although the Obama administration favours scrapping the policy, it would prefer it be done in Congress rather than through the court system.

    The US Justice Department filed the stay request in California on behalf of the administration.

    The administration asked Judge Phillips to respond by Monday "given the urgency and gravity of the issues".

    If the judge refuses, the Justice Department said it would seek a ruling blocking the judge's decision from the 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco.
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    God what a mess. They're now letting gays enlist, but with a warning they might be drummed out if Obama's appeal against the ruling is successful. The first recruit who gets sent home because of Obama is going to cost him a heck of a lot of those youth votes he picked up in 2008.

    BBC News - US military accepting gay recruits

    The US military has started accepting gay recruits after a California judge last week struck down the "don't ask, don't tell" policy barring openly gay people from serving.

    But the US defense department says new gay recruits are warned the repeal of the law may be overturned.

    The Pentagon is appealing against the decision and has asked the judge to reinstate the ban in the interim.

    Some gay activist groups were planning to send people to enlist at recruiting stations to test the Pentagon's announcement that it was accepting recruits who openly state that they are gay.

    "If they were to self admit that they are gay and want to enlist, we will process them for enlistment, but will tell them that the legal situation could change," Douglas Smith, spokesman for US Army Recruiting Command at Fort Knox, Kentucky, said.
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    bizarre stuff

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    Court allows Pentagon to re-instate ban on gay soldiers

    Presumably until the next court rules.

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