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    EMPLOYERS are importing thousands of workers for ordinary jobs from outside the EU, despite record unemployment levels here.

    The number of non-EU workers being hired has surged to more than 6,600 so far this year, new figures show.

    Workers from outside Ireland and the EU are being hired for jobs on farms, in hotels, restaurants, bars, nursing homes, takeaways, insurance companies, pharmacies and leisure centres.
    The figures will raise serious questions about why companies are so desperate for foreign workers -- and whether it is because they are often cheaper and non-unionised.
    Thousands of workers 'imported' despite job crisis - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

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    Default Indo - Thousands of work-permits issued despite mass-unemployment

    Despite 13.7% of the workforce denied employment, the govt has so far issued 6,600 new non-EEA work-permits (not renewals of those already here) for service industries including:
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    jobs on farms, in hotels, restaurants, bars, nursing homes, takeaways, insurance companies, pharmacies and leisure centres.A large number of the workers are also employed in nursing homes, with permits also issued for workers in guesthouses...
    The surge in numbers comes despite rules that insist companies can only hire overseas if they can't get the staff at home or in the EU. The number of people signing on the dole here is just under 450,000.
    The figures will raise serious questions about why companies are so desperate for foreign workers -- and whether it is because they are often cheaper and non-unionised...The geographical background of those getting permits was highly concentrated, with Indians awarded 1,780 permits, followed by citizens of the Philippines with 1,101 permits and China with 288 permits...There have been complaints in recent months by the Migrant Rights Centre Ireland (MRCI) that some unnamed employers were exploiting workers.
    The Minister of State in charge of labour affairs, Dara Calleary, recently condemned "any practices by employers that may result in non-compliance with employment rights, entitlements or any other mistreatment of employees".
    Mr Calleary pointed out that those employers who contravene employment permits legislation may be liable for fines ranging from €5,000 up to €50,000....
    This raises huge questions as to the wisdom of the govt's immigration-policy in the context where 27,000 Irish citizens emigrated last year (and 33,000 non-Irish nationals). Write to the Ministers for Labour and Enterprise and Employment (Dara Calleary and Batt O'Keefe) to demand drastic new restrictions on the issue of these work-permits, which come in a context of an EU labour-market of hundreds of millions of people. The Migrant Rights Centre study in 2009 found that 53% of migrant-workers in the hospitality-sector are being paid under the minimum-wage - a trend likely to have been exacerbated by the recession.

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    Non EU people will work for less and expect less. Capitalist employers will sieze on this and employ them in their droves.

    More money for the shareholders is what it's all about.
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    EMPLOYERS are importing thousands of workers for ordinary jobs from outside the EU, despite record unemployment levels here.
    The number of non-EU workers being hired has surged to more than 6,600 so far this year, new figures show.

    Workers from outside Ireland and the EU are being hired for jobs on farms, in hotels, restaurants, bars, nursing homes, takeaways, insurance companies, pharmacies and leisure centres.

    A large number of the workers are also employed in nursing homes, with permits also issued for workers in guesthouses.

    The surge in numbers comes despite rules that insist companies can only hire overseas if they can't get the staff at home or in the EU. The number of people signing on the dole here is just under 450,000.

    The figures will raise serious questions about why companies are so desperate for foreign workers -- and whether it is because they are often cheaper and non-unionised.
    Thousands of workers 'imported' despite job crisis - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

    6,600 jobs gone to foreign workers.

    Thats €1,312020 per month in dole payments we didnt have to pay.

    Thats 6,600 Irish people who dodnt have to live on the dole in misery.

    How can this carry on? These are not EU workers they are workers from outside the EU being taken on for ordinary jobs according to the article.

    And just how are companies getting work permits for these people? Clearly the government are issuing work permits for low skilled workers.

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    in June 1,194 permits were issued, with the largest demand coming from services industries, considerably ahead of healthcare.

    The geographical background of those getting permits was highly concentrated, with Indians awarded 1,780 permits, followed by citizens of the Philippines with 1,101 permits and China with 288 permits.
    Thousands of workers 'imported' despite job crisis - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie



    It makes you sick, especially when you read headlines about familes being evicted or idiots on here demanding families living on the dole have it ut in half because they must be scroungers.


    Couple ask High Court to repossess their home

    A TIPPERARY couple asked the High Court yesterday to repossess their home as quickly as possible so that they could apply for council housing.

    John and Patricia Burnett, of Cahir, Co Tipperary, told Mr Justice Brian McGovern they accepted they were not in a position to repay the loan on their home, but they could not actively consent to the repossession order because their local authority would not allow them on to its housing list.

    The couple’s home was among 14 properties on which orders for possession were granted to lenders yesterday.

    GE Money applied to the High Court to repossess the Burnetts’ three-bedroomed “prefab home”. The couple, who have two adult sons, purchased the house in 2000 and borrowed €169,000 in 2006 to finance a business
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    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...280878469.html

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    These workers are paid well below minimum wage that's why and the one's who are lucky enough to be on the minimum will not join a union or complain about their employer mistreating them. There is a factory out in Blanchardstown and they have 123 employed there. Out of the 123 only 15 are Irish nationals and they all work in the office or management. All the factory staff on the production end of things are non EU workers including the supervisors. Five years ago there where 140 people who worked at said factory and only 6 non EU workers.

    This practice is rampant in the manufacturing industry in Ireland and is forcing people to go on the dole or emigrate.

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    in June 1,194 permits were issued, with the largest demand coming from services industries, considerably ahead of healthcare.

    The geographical background of those getting permits was highly concentrated, with Indians awarded 1,780 permits, followed by citizens of the Philippines with 1,101 permits and China with 288 permits.
    Thousands of workers 'imported' despite job crisis - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie


    6,600 jobs gone to foreign workers.

    Thats €1,312020 per month in dole payments we didnt have to pay.

    Thats 6,600 Irish people who dodnt have to live on the dole in misery.

    How can this carry on? These are not EU workers they are workers from outside the EU being taken on for ordinary jobs according to the article.

    And just how are companies getting work permits for these people? Clearly the government are issuing work permits for low skilled workers.


    in June 1,194 permits were issued, with the largest demand coming from services industries, considerably ahead of healthcare.

    The geographical background of those getting permits was highly concentrated, with Indians awarded 1,780 permits, followed by citizens of the Philippines with 1,101 permits and China with 288 permits.
    Thousands of workers 'imported' despite job crisis - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie



    It makes you sick, especially when you read headlines about familes being evicted or idiots on here demanding families living on the dole have it ut in half because they must be scroungers.


    Couple ask High Court to repossess their home

    A TIPPERARY couple asked the High Court yesterday to repossess their home as quickly as possible so that they could apply for council housing.

    John and Patricia Burnett, of Cahir, Co Tipperary, told Mr Justice Brian McGovern they accepted they were not in a position to repay the loan on their home, but they could not actively consent to the repossession order because their local authority would not allow them on to its housing list.

    The couple’s home was among 14 properties on which orders for possession were granted to lenders yesterday.

    GE Money applied to the High Court to repossess the Burnetts’ three-bedroomed “prefab home”. The couple, who have two adult sons, purchased the house in 2000 and borrowed €169,000 in 2006 to finance a business


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    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...280878469.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister men View Post
    These workers are paid well below minimum wage that's why and the one's who are lucky enough to be on the minimum will not join a union or complain about their employer mistreating them. There is a factory out in Blanchardstown and they have 123 employed there. Out of the 123 only 15 are Irish nationals and they all work in the office or management. All the factory staff on the production end of things are non EU workers including the supervisors. Five years ago there where 140 people who worked at said factory and only 6 non EU workers.

    This practice is rampant in the manufacturing industry in Ireland and is forcing people to go on the dole or emigrate.

    It dosent matter how much their earning/being paid. They simply shouldnt be here.

    What fool in the department of issuing work permits felt that someone from India could do a better job working in a hotel etc than any Irish person on the dole?

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