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    Default RUC interrogator reveals torture to media.

    Reports in the Guardian based on testimony from former RUC officers and others (suspects etc) confirming that torture was routinely used, widespread and encouraged by senior officers. Nothing new to most Irish people I suppose but may come as a surprise to those (mainly deluded British people) who still think that 'fair play' is a British virtue.

    Inside Castlereagh: 'We got confessions by torture' | UK news | guardian.co.uk

    Video | An RUC interrogator speaks: Northern Ireland's forced confessions revealed | UK news | guardian.co.uk

    Hundreds of Northern Ireland 'terrorists' allege police torture | UK news | guardian.co.uk

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    It will be a shock to many here too, for many who turned a blind eye -and for others who held and still hold the view that they deserved what they got.

    No such thing as innocent until proved guilty - as thatcher said and many gombeens here would agree -all suspects came from the terrorist community

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    When will the torture of the IRA- burning, scalding with hot water,breaking bones, bursting ear drums, suffocating people in baths till almost drowned, be revealed. All these things used emerge at coroner's inquests before the victims were dumped on lonely roads with plastic bags over their heads
    You'd think Kenny committed Treason and brought in IMF. Cowen had all in stitches in Galway at 3.30a.m.but he was "not impaired" -DD Power. FF=Publican páirtí an IMF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomas Mor View Post
    When will the torture of the IRA- burning, scalding with hot water,breaking bones, bursting ear drums, suffocating people in baths till almost drowned, be revealed. All these things used emerge at coroner's inquests before the victims were dumped on lonely roads with plastic bags over their heads
    Link? Or this that just your fevered imagination working over time?

    The IRA knew from suffering torture themselves that it rarely produces accurate information.

    We all know the deep rooted moral sickness in your soul after the filth you vomited all over our screens about the good priest Fr Chesney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SevenStars View Post
    Link? Or this that just your fevered imagination working over time?

    The IRA knew from suffering torture themselves that it rarely produces accurate information.

    We all know the deep rooted moral sickness in your soul after the filth you vomited all over our screens about the good priest Fr Chesney.
    Oh SS look what I found...
    IRA torture houses unearthed by victims' pressure group - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

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    I would think that there was bad things done by both sides, time to let it go and move on

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    Quote Originally Posted by SevenStars View Post
    Link? Or this that just your fevered imagination working over time?

    The IRA knew from suffering torture themselves that it rarely produces accurate information.

    We all know the deep rooted moral sickness in your soul after the filth you vomited all over our screens about the good priest Fr Chesney.

    You should read some facts and history,and also pathologist Jack Crane who had to deal with some of the worst aspects of the IRA torture. Some of the worst torture on victims was concealed from relatives even.
    You'd think Kenny committed Treason and brought in IMF. Cowen had all in stitches in Galway at 3.30a.m.but he was "not impaired" -DD Power. FF=Publican páirtí an IMF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffykontbiscuits View Post
    Do you have any idea who Willie Frazer is?

    The PSNI/RUC denied him a gun lisence because they consider him far to crazy and according to them he has links with even the most extreme Loyalists.

    The guy is a total fantasist and general loon who even most Unionists dont take seriously....

    Willie Frazer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by sondagefaux View Post
    Reports in the Guardian based on testimony from former RUC officers and others (suspects etc) confirming that torture was routinely used, widespread and encouraged by senior officers. Nothing new to most Irish people I suppose but may come as a surprise to those (mainly deluded British people) who still think that 'fair play' is a British virtue.

    Inside Castlereagh: 'We got confessions by torture' | UK news | guardian.co.uk

    Video | An RUC interrogator speaks: Northern Ireland's forced confessions revealed | UK news | guardian.co.uk

    Hundreds of Northern Ireland 'terrorists' allege police torture | UK news | guardian.co.uk
    Well, well, well, the wall of silence is breaking at last.

    Of course much this has been common knowledge for years. The articles make for shocking reading all the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffykontbiscuits View Post
    Well done. Fantastic investigatory work. You found stuff about republican brutality. On a little-known but entirely objective website. The Indo.

    The whole point in this story, in case you missed it, which I sense you have, is that the unionist/British side of the conflict engaged in those forms of behaviour that they would have us believe marks out their republican enemies as being uniquely violent and evil.

    Stemming from this, it's clear that those who put a lot of work into condemning republican violence almost always strive to obscure and deflect attention away from the mirror images of that violence on the unionist/British side.

    Another aspect of this is the degree to which the quasi-republic of Ireland co-operated with the brutality of the RUC (not to mention their collusion). The republic's protection of those responsible for the worst mass-murder in the republic's history (Dublin/Monaghan) has to be seen in this overall context.

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