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    Lightbulb Why is Ireland so backwards compared to other European countries?

    Something that strikes anyone with an interest in Irish society and politics is the sheer backwardness of it compared to most other advanced capitalist countries: in terms of rampant corruption at every level of governance (from Stroke Fahy up to Bertie), the sheer incompetence of the political and business Úlite (our 'greatest' entrepreneurs are usually people like Denis O'Brien or Michael O'Leary who either made their money in alleged dodgy dealings or by absolutely slaughtering wages and conditions in a race to the bottom), the relative backwardness of society in many ways (blasphemy laws enshrined in the Bunreacht, Church and State still meshed together) and of course the underdeveloped political discourse (FF/FG being two cheeks of the same backside). Why is this? What is it about Ireland that makes it different to other countries? I have some ideas myself but I wanna see what others think before I divulge them.
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    1. While we have some great individuals, IMO the Irish have a strong complacent streak and a need to conform.
    2. We're desperately poor at developing systems - we make too much up as we go along.
    3. We're still too close to the parochial mindset.
    4. We ridicule ideas too easily and have a tendency to play the man.

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    Sheep mere sheep are the irish, anyone who goes against the grain is seen as a troublemaker and apple cart upsetter, the further you go down the country the worse it gets. Yet if the brits invaded in the morning they would all be out with their pitchforks, imho the best have always left, leaving us with the cowardly hat tipping wastes of space. Most irish are simply institutionalised in their little servile world.

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    Loads of reasons:

    Ireland is still quite rural compared to other European countries.

    We only developed economically over the past 20 years.

    Free education only came in the late 1960s (and even with free education, we've produced ill-educated people).

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    Quote Originally Posted by breakingnews View Post
    Loads of reasons:

    Ireland is still quite rural compared to other European countries.

    We only developed economically over the past 20 years.

    Free education only came in the late 1960s (and even with free education, we've produced ill-educated people).
    The French people who overthrew their rulers were poorly educated, but they had balls.

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    We are not called the paddy's of europe for nothing.

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    No system is perfect

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    Quote Originally Posted by antiestablishmentarian View Post
    in terms of rampant corruption at every level of governance (from Stroke Fahy up to Bertie),
    Total bull. Ireland isn't a particularly corrupt country. In fact it is relatively clean Corruption Perceptions Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

    business Úlite (our 'greatest' entrepreneurs are usually people like Denis O'Brien or Michael O'Leary who either made their money in alleged dodgy dealings or by absolutely slaughtering wages and conditions in a race to the bottom),
    Ryanair hostesses earn more than Aer Lingus FYI. Michael O'Leary is successful and respected. Can you show me countries where business like him are paragons of social virtue.

    the relative backwardness of society in many ways (blasphemy laws enshrined in the Bunreacht, Church and State still meshed together)
    In Sweden the head of state must be Protestant as is the case in Norway and Britain which also has a blasphemy law. Are they "backward" too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irelands Call View Post
    No system is perfect

    Just Ireland's is so imperfect.

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    Have a good look around next time you leave the country and you'll be glad to be back.

    We are still one of the best places in the world.

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