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Thread: Firefighters allow home, pets to burn because of unpaid fee.

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    Default Firefighters allow home, pets to burn because of unpaid fee.

    In a town in Tennessee a man who forgot to pay his fire protection service fee implored and pleaded with watching firefighters as his home burned to the ground, with his dog and cats inside...

    Cranick says he told the operator he would pay whatever necessary costs had to paid but his offer wasn’t accepted. Firefighters did eventually show up but only to put out the fire on the neighboring property as sparks caused a small fire in the field next to the Cranicks. That owner apparently paid the fee.

    "They put water out on the fence line out here. They never said nothing to me. Never acknowledged. They stood out here and watched it burn," Cranick said.

    Reportedly the fire fee policy is close to 20 years old

    Read more: Firefighters Allow Home, Pets to Burn Because of Unpaid Service Fee | AHN
    Tragic indictment on US society IMHO. Is this the future of privatisation? Will they privatise police next and then (depending on fee paid or not) refuse to help citizens in trouble if they don't appear on a list of fee payers?

    There is another question, how could they be certain nobody was inside? Can you really be certain... In Ireland if there is any out of control fire the fire brigade go out automatically because such things are by definition potential health hazards. The system that places financial deals and systems above people means that if any of the watching firefighters had intervened it probably might have cost them their jobs.

    He should have lied and said a relative was inside, could we see a day when that wouldn't affect their decision not to put out the fire? It's a dystopian hole the US seems to be sliding towards - might we follow suit (now that our economy is entering cash-strapped mode and neoliberalism is waiting to 'transform' us)?

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    Don't tell Wicklow Town/County Council... they'll model their already disgraceful service on this.

    Edit - this is in no way a slur on the excellent fire service staff/volunteers in the county

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    Thats the logic of capitalism for you. Yes - it's obscene.

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    I sincerely hope the police are taking action over this!
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    I think it's more the logic of idiots than an ideology Cael.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edor View Post
    I think it's more the logic of idiots than an ideology Cael.
    Its not though, if a fire service is being run for profit why should they bother to put out the fire of someone who hasn't paid for the service? Thats how capitalism works, appealing to the lowest, basest and most vile motive of all, that of profit.
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    Why would anyone be surprised at this? The US is a country that argues that a child with a pre-existing illness should not be entitled to healthcare. Household pets burning to death even as the neighbours beg to pay the fee to the firefighters for the householder is something half that country would be proud of. Fox news commentator was in full "serves 'em right" mode over this story.
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    Libertarianism, not capitalism. The people of Tennessee have voted for the extent of the state services they have, in return they have some of the lowest taxes in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edor View Post
    I think it's more the logic of idiots than an ideology Cael.
    The logic of idiots is a perfect description of capitalism.

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    Will they privatise police next and then (depending on fee paid or not) refuse to help citizens in trouble if they don't appear on a list of fee payers?
    You poor innocent little lamb.

    You obviously know nothing about the relatioship between police departments and organised crime syndicates in the U.S.

    Firefighters in New York and Chicago during the 19th century often turned up at fires to steal valuables rather than put out fires.

    It is said that some of the dead firefighters recovered from the WTC had diamonds in their pockets.

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