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    Default Failure to clean-up Irish Steel site could cost state €100,000/day in EU fines

    According to an article in the Examiner today, the state could be facing fines of between 20,000 and 100,000 per day for the failure to take adequate steps to clean 3o the further Irish Steel site in Cork Harbour.

    State faces €100,000 a day fine over toxic Cork dump | Irish Examiner

    What the hell is going on ? I thought the Green Party were in government?

    This is going to be extremely embarrassing for Gormley. He's done nothing about this festering mess since 2007 from what I can see.

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    Harney- Gilmore- FF they are all in on the cover-up while Cobh has 40% higher cancer rates than the national average.

    It was a group of local housewives that took this to Europe. Nice to see the EU can actually deliver something for the Irish people on occassions, and slap the hands of the crooks in Leinster house.

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    Greens are good for nothings anyway.

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    Billions and billions are available for metaphorically toxic banks, while the Government won't make money available to clean up a very real toxic mess in Cork Harbour. Its frighteningly close to Cobh and to fairly populous areas of Cork's southern suburbs. Its also literally a stones throw from the Irish Naval HQ.

    This mess was also caused by a failure to regulate and worse still, Irish Steel, for the vast majority of its highly polluting life, was a fully state owned enterprise! ISPAT's involvement was relatively brief.

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    This is a much more serious issue than BIFFO getting pished yet again or Bertie making a total gom of himself flogging a trashy tabloid.

    I've just Googled "Gormley, Haulbowline, toxic" and the results are really staggering! They show that Gormless had adopted an ostrich-like approach to this problem ever since the day that he slithered into Ministerial Office through the Ahern sewer.

    Despite countless warnings about this problem, he has turned a blind eye and lied and lied and lied to the residents of the Cobh and Haulbowline area and people of Lower Cork Harbour, repeatedly and unashamedly.

    Just as Michael Noonan's political career was badly damaged by the McCole affair, I sincerely hope that the Gormless political career will be remembered not merely for his ego-driven destruction of the Irish Green Party, but much more significantly for his scandalous inaction on this national scandal.

    The following extract is from a July 2008 article - but of course the vile Gormless was much more concernmed about fur farms, stag hunting, incinerator blocking and giving Mary White's snout its turn at the goodie trough than in dealing with the most critical environmental problem facing Ireland during his time as Minister.

    "The Environment Minister told the people of Cork that despite all the scary publicity over a controversial toxic waste site on their doorsteps, there was absolutely no danger to their health. Despite the fact that disturbing amounts of toxic waste had been found on Haulbowline Island, the former site of Irish Steel, Gormley blithely insisted that people there were living "in an area free of risk".

    Today, that claim is starting to sound rather hollow. A new study has shown that in the nearby town of Cobh, the number of cancer cases diagnosed is a massive 44pc higher than the national average."

    Gormley not so Green as toxic scandal festers - Opinion, Frontpage - Herald.ie
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    From Dail Eireann debate 24th April 1996.

    Kathleen Lynch TD:..........” Having lived through the uncertainty of Irish Steel — before I was elected to this House — and the successful conclusion of the deal — after being elected — it is incredible that during his contribution he found it impossible to say a good deal was done. To hear somebody cast further doubts on a good deal which is now almost 12 months old will cause further worry and fears for the people in Cobh and Irish Steel. They should not have to endure those unnecessary fears because they had an incredibly bad time while arriving at the solution. I assure them as I am sure Deputies from Cork city and county wish to assure them, that all the negotiations and co-operation were not in vain. We are now merely discussing the finality of putting in place the deal which was arrived at in relation to ISPAT. When people speak in the House they forget that those directly concerned are listening and will worry if they hear any note of caution”.


    Wonder if she still stands by her words now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveMc View Post
    From Dail Eireann debate 24th April 1996.

    Kathleen Lynch TD:..........” Having lived through the uncertainty of Irish Steel — before I was elected to this House — and the successful conclusion of the deal — after being elected — it is incredible that during his contribution he found it impossible to say a good deal was done. To hear somebody cast further doubts on a good deal which is now almost 12 months old will cause further worry and fears for the people in Cobh and Irish Steel. They should not have to endure those unnecessary fears because they had an incredibly bad time while arriving at the solution. I assure them as I am sure Deputies from Cork city and county wish to assure them, that all the negotiations and co-operation were not in vain. We are now merely discussing the finality of putting in place the deal which was arrived at in relation to ISPAT. When people speak in the House they forget that those directly concerned are listening and will worry if they hear any note of caution”.


    Wonder if she still stands by her words now?
    As a matter of interest, who was the "him" to whose contribution she referred in that speech?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushroom View Post
    As a matter of interest, who was the "him" to whose contribution she referred in that speech?
    Deputy Michael Ahern.

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    Was Kathleen a member of Labour back then, lets not forget that it was a Labour Minister, Ruiri Quinn that sold off the Steel Plant to the Idian steel giants Ispat for £1 -we all know had happened later.

    Ispat ran and left us the timebomb. They werent pursued by our gove but they/Dublin are now being pursued by the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murph View Post
    Was Kathleen a member of Labour back then, lets not forget that it was a Labour Minister, Ruiri Quinn that sold off the Steel Plant to the Idian steel giants Ispat for £1 -we all know had happened later.

    Ispat ran and left us the timebomb. They werent pursued by our gove but they/Dublin are now being pursued by the EU.
    I think it was ‘the rainbow’ time;
    Is is not only Ispat that ran and left us the timebomb, the government of the day done us no favours either.

    How many people that are now Labour members (officials) worked in ‘The Steel’ at the time?
    Did they raise any concerns at that time?

    Still, working on the assumption that the voters have short memories, it is worth a vote or two to have selective memory loss and blame the current Minister for Environment.

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