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    It's 20 years since the Deutsche Demokratische Republik fell to the holocaust of capitalism. And, while the capitalist spivs savour their victory, workers should not fall for the blanket propaganda that we have been subjected to for the last 12 months. This propaganda is not about history. Its not even about the DDR. It's about the fact that while the USSR fell 20 years ago under the weight of a corrupt, self serving elite, today, capitalism is falling for just the same reasons. The message is: We capitalist spivs might be vermin, but, dont dare oppose us or you might end up back in the DDR. (Not the real DDR, of course, but the DDR of the sick capitalist imagination, the DDR of media hacks like George Lee - who went on to show his incredible political judgement when he gave up a cushy number with RTÉ to join the blueshirts, and then started crying because he found out, several months later, that they were the blueshirts.)

    So, let's talk about the reality of the DDR for a minute. It was founded after WW2, amoung the rubble of a nation that had been destroyed by fascism, and the allied bombardments and invasions. It was founded by idealists like Erich Honecker, who faught the Nazis while the capitalists funded them, and wasnt afraid to spend ten years in a Nazi prison for his Communist principals. In 1946, Germany was a ruin. The British had been absolutely wanton in thier bombings of civilian areas - Dresden being one of the worst war crimes in all of history - and millions of people were homeless. The Red Army had also taken much needed industrial equipment back to Russia. The outlook was very bleak. But, a miracle happened. After a few short years of Communism, millions of people had new homes - and no mortgages on them either. Millions of people had work to do in brand new factories. Education of the highest standards became available to everyone, free of charge. Nobody had to pay for medicine. Childcare for working mothers was the best in Europe. In sport and art, the DDR excelled.

    But, not everyone was happy about this workers utopia existing. There were still hateful people, who's only ambition was to reduce the workers, once more, to wage slaves. Many of these enemies of the people were inside the DDR itself, but many were outside, secretly funding these traitors. It was the great work of the Ministerium für Staatssicherheit, or the Stasi, to protect the Workers from these enemies. And, for the most part, they did this in a firm, but just manner.

    So, we workers should never fall for the capitalist propaganda. We should be proud of the great achievements of the DDR, while learning from the mistakes. Needless to say, if there had not been mistakes, Germany might be united today as the DDR. The biggest mistake was trying to stop information about the west. That left East Germans with a totally naive idea of what captalism is all about. They were shocked to see their teenage girls turned into prostitutes and their boys turned into drug dealers and pimps. If they had known about capitalism, they would have known that the Wall was their greatest benefit - to keep the vermin out. By the 1970s, there should also have been a move to Direct Democracy - but, as we all know, powerful elites love to hang on to power.

    As I say, we must learn from the successes and failures of the DDR, and march on to 21st Century Communism.


    The DDR also had one of the most beautiful anthems of all time:

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgvCWZJSQd4]YouTube - National Anthem of East Germany (DDR)[/ame]

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    the ddr? feck 'em. end of thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by galleyslave View Post
    the ddr? feck 'em. end of thread
    Hi George...

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    Excelled in sport?? with a little help from chemicals!!

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    Let's celebrate the democratic achievement of the people of the DDR in putting an end to that police/prison state.

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    Cael,

    You are right on one thing: childcare was of a very high standard. But I cannot agree with you on the main thrust of your post. The Stasi were the lowest form of pondlife, the politburo were asinine mediocrities, much like our Cabinet, the economy was on its last legs in the 80s and would have died sooner had it not been for the imaginative work of Alexander Schalk-Golodkowski, and even Gorbachev was frustrated by Honecker & Co's refusal to look reality in the face. The DDR is gone and most of the citizens of the former DDR don't want it back. They may not be the most fervent fans of the system there are in now but they really don't want to go back to living in a prison.
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    It was a tyrannical hell hole where people were encouraged to inform on each other. A collectivist s**thole where anyone who tried to be an individual and didn't toe the party line was considered an enemy of the state.

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    Disappointed in you Cael. This is a fairly quick one to dispel. There's so much to attack but I think I'll stick to the mortal wound.

    The Berlin Wall was there to stop people trying to leave the DDR not to stop people get in. When your own people are willing to risk their lives to escape the country, the country is probably the definition of a failed State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cael View Post

    It was the great work of the Ministerium für Staatssicherheit, or the Stasi, to protect the Workers from these enemies. And, for the most part, they did this in a firm, but just manner.

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    If there were any lingering doubts that you are an intellectual spastic they have been dispelled by that post and that one sentence above all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeDroit View Post
    Disappointed in you Cael. This is a fairly quick one to dispel. There's so much to attack but I think I'll stick to the mortal wound.

    The Berlin Wall was there to stop people trying to leave the DDR not to stop people get in. When your own people are willing to risk their lives to escape the country, the country is probably the definition of a failed State.
    Less than 200 people were killed in the whole history of the Wall. Only a tiny minority ever tried to leave. How many have been killed because of the border in Ireland? How many people have been forced to leave the capitalist paradise of Ireland? One out of every two since 1922.

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