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    The North West Deputies outside the Fianna Fail parliamentary party will be challenged by a motion on health services in the Western region next week.

    Fine Gael will put forward the vote in a bid to test the response of Jimmy Devins, Eamon Scanlon and Jim Mc Daid.

    All three resigned the party whip over health issues with Sligo North Leitrim TD Jimmy Devins this week issuing a statement saying in any vote he will make his decision in the best interest of his constituents.

    He did not rule out voting against the Government.

    Fine Gael Councillor Barry O Neill said they will be forced to show which side they will take when the issue is raised next week.
    Ocean FM Fine Gael to challenge NW TD’s with health vote

    I am not sure what the motion will be but does this have the potential to finally bring down the FF/GP government?
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    Easy on F G , ye dont want power yet , let the FF ers bring in their budget first and then go for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulster-Lad View Post
    Ocean FM Fine Gael to challenge NW TDs with health vote

    I am not sure what the motion will be but does this have the potential to finally bring down the FF/GP government?
    FG will put forward a motion that deals with Mayo, Sligo and Donegal, giving each of the TDs the option of opposing it, in that they can claim that their area is a special case, and that they can't support motions in relation to other areas.

    FG are getting sillier and sillier.
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    It is being reported that McDaid voted against the by-elections because the people want a GE instead. Interesting...
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    http://debates.oireachtas.ie/DDebate.aspx?F=DAL20100929.xml&Node=H13&Page=13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulster-Lad View Post
    It is being reported that McDaid voted against the by-elections because the people want a GE instead. Interesting...
    Not really, you are falling into a deadly trap of actually believing that stuff coming out of a FF TD's mouth might actually be true.

    Tomorrow, if there was a vote of confidence that would precipatate a GE, Mc Daid would vote with the Govt and then say "I have a preference for the by elections to be held first before any GE"

    Anyway as it's not a finance bill I assume all three will vote against it, get a ticking off from Curran and we will slither on.
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    it'll be a composite motion. Time to put up or shut up. Nothing worse than Gov TDs pretending to be the opposition. A Dail defeat won't bring down the Gov, it'll just embarrass them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulster-Lad View Post
    It is being reported that McDaid voted against the by-elections because the people want a GE instead. Interesting...
    He's some idiot, we can't force the government to hold an election if they have a majority in the Dail, holding the by-elections would have reduced the government majority if they were lost thus hastening a general election but using the wild logic of Dr. McDaid he voted against doing anything to hasten that general election happening.

    What next, will he support the budget cos defeating it would only bring about a change of government but what we need is an election (despite the change in government coming about because of an election.)
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    Motion attached, i am sure that Jakie Healy Rae will be delighted to vote for the last item in the motion-opening of €16m million community hospital-currently empty and idle and costing the taxpayer €4000 per week !!!!


    DIL IREANN
    Fgr Tairisceana : Notice of Motion
    GN COMHALTA PROBHIDEACHA
    PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BUSINESS
    “That Dil ireann, noting with concern:
    — that there are more than 46,000 adults and children on hospital waiting lists across the
    country, which is 5,400 patients more than last year;
    — that over 272,000 bed days were lost in 2009 due to the delayed discharge of patients;
    — that 50,000 operations have been cancelled since 2007, leaving many patients waiting
    in pain;
    — the anguish that continues in hospital A&E departments, with an average of 300
    patients on trolleys each day; and
    — that no further loss of capacity can be sustained;
    calls on the Government to:
    — ensure that there are no further reductions to frontline staff or services;
    — suspend the loss of frontline health services and capacity at hospitals, for example at
    Clonmel, Merlin Park, Nenagh, Roscommon, Navan, Sligo, Letterkenny and
    Portiuncula; and
    — immediately open the €16m community hospital facility in Dingle, Co. Kerry.” —
    James Reilly, Enda Kenny, Bernard Allen, James Bannon, Sen Barrett, Pat Breen,
    Richard Bruton, Ulick Burke, Catherine Byrne, Joe Carey, Deirdre Clune, Paul
    Connaughton, Noel J. Coonan, Simon Coveney, Seymour Crawford, Michael Creed,
    Lucinda Creighton, Michael D'Arcy, John Deasy, Jimmy Deenihan, Andrew Doyle,
    Bernard J. Durkan, Damien English, Olwyn Enright, Frank Feighan, Charles
    Flanagan, Terence Flanagan, Brian Hayes, Tom Hayes, Phil Hogan, Paul Kehoe,
    Pdraic McCormack, Shane McEntee, Dinny McGinley, Joe McHugh, Olivia
    Mitchell, Denis Naughten, Dan Neville, Michael Noonan, Kieran O'Donnell, Fergus
    O'Dowd, Jim O'Keeffe, John O'Mahony, John Perry, Michael Ring, Alan Shatter,
    Tom Sheahan, P. J. Sheehan, David Stanton, Billy Timmins, Leo Varadkar.
    [1 October, 2010]

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    Its understood intense negotiations are going on between the Fianna Fail chief whip and the two Sligo TDs outside the party ahead of a crucial health vote tonight.

    Fine Gaels health spokesperson, Dr. James Reilly is bringing forward a motion calling on the Government to ensure there are no further cuts to frontline services in a number of hospitals.
    Ocean FM Intense negotiations under way ahead of health vote

    Why would they need to negotiate if there are no plans to cut front line services?
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