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    Default Who are these Anglo Bond holders

    and why can't they be burnt a little

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    joe higgins on pat kenny now saying he rang up anglo to find out.

    they dont know.

    so i doubt anyone elses does.


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    because in the world of Lenihan, 'risk capital' means 'riskless capital' and 'capitalism' means 'socialism'
    “'retail deposit flight, I don't see that as a great danger. Ireland is an island” - Brian Lenihan - to hundreds of international investors

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    'They don't know'

    Off course they do..no let's shoot out some names who we think they are

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    Quote Originally Posted by exileinleinster View Post
    'They don't know'

    Off course they do..no let's shoot out some names who we think they are
    actually they really don't know!

    it's not like shareholders where you have a register of who owns the shares

    probably the only place you might be able to get the info is from somewhere like Clearstream and even then at any one point in time, a huge % of the bonds are repo'd or even rehypothecated so the owner has handd them over to someone else as collateral.
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    Any good hacker out there who could hack into anglos accounts? Would be great to see the Political connections to the bond holders e.g. Family, friends, Political backers etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by exileinleinster View Post
    'They don't know'

    Off course they do..no let's shoot out some names who we think they are

    I don't think they do.

    The bonds are traded on the open market so its difficult to know who holds them at a given point in time.

    If there is to be a renegotiation I think they have to put something out on the wire.

    More info on this thread:

    http://www.politics.ie/economy/13939...-opinions.html

    Emmet Olver in the Indo maintains that UK and EU pension funds are the main holders.
    A demagogue is someone who will preach doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by realistic1 View Post
    Any good hacker out there who could hack into anglos accounts? Would be great to see the Political connections to the bond holders e.g. Family, friends, Political backers etc
    see my point above, nobody at Anglo knows (with certainty anyway) who holds their debt at any one point in time
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    Quote Originally Posted by goosebump View Post
    Emmet Olver in the Indo maintains that UK and EU pension funds are the main holders.
    what does he base that on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarshBuzz View Post
    what does he base that on?
    No idea. Presumably the general view that pension and asset funds are the largest customers for these types of 'low risk' securities.
    A demagogue is someone who will preach doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.

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