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    Default Riddle me this.

    How come there are 455,000 people on the dole and yet only 1,500 see fit to protest this government in the capital yesterday. Why are Irish people so indifferent to the state the country is in. I've thought about this a lot recently and i've come to the conclusion that social welfare payments are to high and this is part of the problem. Is it possible FF know that if they lower welfare payments by the 30-40% they need to be brought down by, that the people will rise up againest them. Thoughts?

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    Might be something to do with this






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    I'd imagine that like most people they don't want to be associated with loons like the socialists and eirigi. Anyway, why should they attend a protest set up by ICTU that did nothing for them in the first place? Nothing to do with social welfare payments.

    Another reason is plain to see in your post. There are 455k on the dole in Ireland, not Dublin.

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    I think people would be more inclined to protest if they had someone to lead them. The most depressing thing about the recession is that there hasn't been any leadership from any quarter. It seems pointless to work towards turfing the current crowd out when you don't have anyone to replace them with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister men View Post
    How come there are 455,000 people on the dole and yet only 1,500 see fit to protest this government in the capital yesterday. Why are Irish people so indifferent to the state the country is in. I've thought about this a lot recently and i've come to the conclusion that social welfare payments are to high and this is part of the problem. Is it possible FF know that if they lower welfare payments by the 30-40% they need to be brought down by, that the people will rise up againest them. Thoughts?
    1,501 protested yesterday, and that one man in his cement truck made more of a statement than the other 1,500 imo.
    I get your point, but it doesn't take hundreds of thousands to get the pitchforks. IMO Some really well planned small protests can have just as much impact.

    I agree with you if the SW is cut then things will get nasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister men View Post
    How come there are 455,000 people on the dole and yet only 1,500 see fit to protest this government in the capital yesterday. Why are Irish people so indifferent to the state the country is in. I've thought about this a lot recently and i've come to the conclusion that social welfare payments are to high and this is part of the problem. Is it possible FF know that if they lower welfare payments by the 30-40% they need to be brought down by, that the people will rise up againest them. Thoughts?
    maybe it has something to do with the lack of nationwide advertising for this event?
    Why did it have to be in Dublin when unemployment is nationwide,and in my own opinion social welfare payments are not too high, i presume you are being devils advocate when you seem to be hinting that the people on the dole sould have marched on mass to Dublin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by edor View Post
    I'd imagine that like most people they don't want to be associated with loons like the socialists and eirigi. Anyway, why should they attend a protest set up by ICTU that did nothing for them in the first place? Nothing to do with social welfare payments.

    Another reason is plain to see in your post. There are 455k on the dole in Ireland, not Dublin.
    i agree about ICTU, I had first hand experiece of a Union going behind the backs of members to cut deals with management,people that I know are on the social with the help of a union, and they want us to march, maybe the spotlight should be put on them sometime with their pay and perks

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebus View Post
    maybe it has something to do with the lack of nationwide advertising for this event?
    Why did it have to be in Dublin when unemployment is nationwide,and in my own opinion social welfare payments are not too high, i presume you are being devils advocate when you seem to be hinting that the people on the dole sould have marched on mass to Dublin?
    All i know is that if i lived anywhere in Ireland and was on the dole i would make the effort to protest the shower that has put me in the position of having to emigrate.

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    Sorry, guys, I just caught the tail end of this one the News yesterday. Were the great union pirates JackBeard and DavidBeard trying to stoke up something? They of the "partnership"?

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    Someone in Germany,whether they live in somewhere as expensive as Munich or as poor as Brandenburg,gets a total of €359 per month dole.The government publishes affordable recommended nutritional meals in the newspapers every week.This is coming to a dole office near you in the not too distant future.

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