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    Just wondering if anyone out there wants a break from discussing polls and personalities for a while. As I see it, we will have a definite choice between the policies that will dominate the next govt. As far as I know, all the major parties have agreed to cut 3 billion from the deficit. My understanding is that FG prefer cuts to current spending rather than raising taxes. Labour, I think want to do a bit of both but since they also want to protect everyone, it looks like they favour more taxes.
    I think all parties agree that reducing unemployment is the key to recovery but none of them have a specific plan - Labour believe their State Bank will be a key, FG have plans on selling some of the semi states. It seems most likely that we will have a combination of Labour & FG and I think its reasonable that the larger of the two will set the tone of the govt - coalitions generally being a compromise. Since we will have to deal with the consequence of our choice, should we start to consider a few likely policies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    Just wondering if anyone out there wants a break from discussing polls and personalities for a while. As I see it, we will have a definite choice between the policies that will dominate the next govt. As far as I know, all the major parties have agreed to cut 3 billion from the deficit. My understanding is that FG prefer cuts to current spending rather than raising taxes. Labour, I think want to do a bit of both but since they also want to protect everyone, it looks like they favour more taxes.
    I think all parties agree that reducing unemployment is the key to recovery but none of them have a specific plan - Labour believe their State Bank will be a key, FG have plans on selling some of the semi states. It seems most likely that we will have a combination of Labour & FG and I think its reasonable that the larger of the two will set the tone of the govt - coalitions generally being a compromise. Since we will have to deal with the consequence of our choice, should we start to consider a few likely policies?
    Have been waiting for this thread a while now. Cannot wait to see the FG and Labour response. I think FF people should refrain from passing any comment on proposals until thread reaches at least 70 posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    Just wondering if anyone out there wants a break from discussing polls and personalities for a while. As I see it, we will have a definite choice between the policies that will dominate the next govt. As far as I know, all the major parties have agreed to cut 3 billion from the deficit. My understanding is that FG prefer cuts to current spending rather than raising taxes. Labour, I think want to do a bit of both but since they also want to protect everyone, it looks like they favour more taxes.
    I think all parties agree that reducing unemployment is the key to recovery but none of them have a specific plan - Labour believe their State Bank will be a key, FG have plans on selling some of the semi states. It seems most likely that we will have a combination of Labour & FG and I think its reasonable that the larger of the two will set the tone of the govt - coalitions generally being a compromise. Since we will have to deal with the consequence of our choice, should we start to consider a few likely policies?
    Health - Universal system almost certain at this stage.
    Banking - Next gov probably forced to continue with NAMA.
    Deficit - Probably a combination of taxes and spending cuts - with more of an emphasis on cuts than taxes
    Education - I reckon this'll be a big one for labour - i think (or at least hope) labour will refuse to bring in 3rd level fees.
    Social welfare - dunno
    Environment - assume there'll be some commitment made to greenhouse emissions and rightly so. Hopefully some political reform and a tightening up of rezoning
    Energy - More commitment to renewables. Dunno about the privatisation business.
    Justice - dunno
    Foreign Affairs - dunno
    Agriculture - Labour have been saying something about CAP reform, don't know much about agriculture

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    Quote Originally Posted by oggy View Post
    I think FF people should refrain from passing any comment on proposals until thread reaches at least 70 posts
    You may have to wait a while
    Seriously, unless you all intend to emigrate you will be faced with the consequences too so why not argue your case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_93 View Post
    Health - Universal system almost certain at this stage.
    Banking - Next gov probably forced to continue with NAMA.
    Deficit - Probably a combination of taxes and spending cuts - with more of an emphasis on cuts than taxes
    Education - I reckon this'll be a big one for labour - i think (or at least hope) labour will refuse to bring in 3rd level fees.
    Social welfare - dunno
    Environment - assume there'll be some commitment made to greenhouse emissions and rightly so. Hopefully some political reform and a tightening up of rezoning
    Energy - More commitment to renewables. Dunno about the privatisation business.
    Justice - dunno
    Foreign Affairs - dunno
    Agriculture - Labour have been saying something about CAP reform, don't know much about agriculture
    Healt- How do you pay for universal cover
    Defecit- Cuts to what, who, when
    Education - So you will cut services but continue susidising the education of the progeny of the rich
    Social welfare ?
    Energy - At the behest of the unions Labour will reject privatisation
    Justice - ?
    Foreign Affairs - We will recognise officially the Socialist struggle in the Spanish Civil War
    Agriculture - As CAP is European matter Labour can keep talking, nobody is listening.

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    My apologies I forgot to mention the committment to build see through schools.

    Education policy = 2 page document and a lovely drawing, even Coughlan could do better.

    http://www.labour.ie/download/pdf/ed...priorities.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxman58 View Post
    My apologies I forgot to mention the committment to build see through schools.

    Education policy = 2 page document and a lovely drawing, even Coughlan could do better.

    http://www.labour.ie/download/pdf/ed...priorities.pdf
    To give them their due they do have a 32 page document on Sport. Shows interesting priorities.

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    This thread will be deafening by it's silence. Labour have no policies, they have aspirational soundbites. Like FG, they have spent so long in opposition I don't think they're mentally prepared for power.

    I'm genuinely frightened with Labour in govt that they will lurch to the left and replicate the same mistakes of high tax, statism that paralysed the country in the 80s. The Unions will expect. . . .
    "A govt big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have" Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_93 View Post
    Health - Universal system almost certain at this stage
    Banking - Next gov probably forced to continue with NAMA.
    Deficit - Probably a combination of taxes and spending cuts - with more of an emphasis on cuts than taxes.
    +1

    Education - I reckon this'll be a big one for labour - i think (or at least hope) labour will refuse to bring in 3rd level fees.
    We need a graduate tax or loan scheme, doing this could allow for the abolition of registration fees which could make college even more attractive. We can't continue with the present where wealthy people get child benefit and free 3rd level, the state can no longer afford it.

    Environment - assume there'll be some commitment made to greenhouse emissions and rightly so. Hopefully some political reform and a tightening up of rezoning
    Fine Gael has NewPolitics and I hope to see something from Labour. This idea that they're the radical party to reform the system doesn't do anything for me. Gilmore says they're a policy driven party but there's not even a document for this!

    Who cares about our greenhouse emissions. We're a tiny Island. China and the US are booming ahead while we shoot ourselves in the foot with Kyoto fees. We should try to get a global deal to reduce emissions but if that falls through we shouldn't restrict our economy by stopping CO2 emissions.

    Energy - More commitment to renewables. Dunno about the privatisation business.
    Sell off the semi-states but keep the infrastructure in State control, no repeat of Eircom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeDroit View Post
    This thread will be deafening by it's silence. Labour have no policies, they have aspirational soundbites. Like FG, they have spent so long in opposition I don't think they're mentally prepared for power.

    I'm genuinely frightened with Labour in govt that they will lurch to the left and replicate the same mistakes of high tax, statism that paralysed the country in the 80s. The Unions will expect. . . .
    I don't think long periods of opposition make parties unfit for office! If anything it's given the opposition 13 years to see how NOT to run a country!!!

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