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Thread: Is the Orange Order breaking the Law?

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    Default Is the Orange Order breaking the Law?

    I have been just reading up on the orange order there and I was horrified to discover that the OO is breaking the law by banning catholics or people with close catholic relations.

    Members are required to be Protestant.[46] Most jurisdictions require both the spouse and parents of potential applicants to be Protestant, although the Grand Lodge can be appealed to make exceptions for converts. Members have been expelled for attending Catholic religious ceremonies. In the period from 1964 to 2002, 11% of those expelled from the order were expelled for their presence at a Catholic religious event such as a baptism, service or funeral.[47]

    The Laws and Constitutions of the Loyal Orange Institution of Scotland of 1986 state, "No ex-Roman Catholic will be admitted into the Institution unless he is a Communicant in a Protestant Church for a reasonable period." Likewise, the "Constitution, Laws and Ordinances of the Loyal Orange Institution of Ireland" (1967) state, "No person who at any time has been a Roman Catholic … shall be admitted into the Institution, except after permission given by a vote of seventy five per cent of the members present founded on testimonials of good character …" In the 19th century, Rev. Mortimer O'Sullivan, a converted Roman Catholic, was a Grand Chaplain of the Orange Order in Ireland. In the 1950s, Scotland also had a former Catholic as a Grand Chaplain, the Rev. William McDermott.
    Should these guys get brought to court or something?

    Imagine if FF where to ban to people according to their religious beliefs...imagine the scandal?
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    The AOH bans Protestants ..... So what ?

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    I can't imagine any Catholics wanting to join.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    The AOH bans Protestants ..... So what ?
    Whataboutary at it's finest!!!

    Can you not deal with the questions posed by the original poster?

    The orange order are a hate organisation and should be treated as such.

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    Marrying a Black AHEM! sorry, a Catholic also gets you banned.
    You take an oath swearing to never marry one, be a God Father to one etc....

    They probably whip you for speaking to one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    The AOH bans Protestants ..... So what ?
    So what?
    It's 2010, that's what.

    Whats your point about the off topic AOH?
    Do 2 drazy cults cancel each other out in your mind?

    Do the KKK cancel out Combat 18?

    The OO breaks many laws but its so riddled with terrorists and has such an extremist following that anyone who took them to the ECHR would probably be killed.

    Instead its all tolerated like extreme Muslim rituals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by st333ve View Post

    Whats your point about the off topic AOH?
    Organisations are allowed to discriminate on grounds of religion is the point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    Organisations are allowed to discriminate on grounds of religion is the point
    And gender Cruimh.

    http://www.lemansolicitors.com/syste...pdf?1272726693

    The OO is effectively (legally) a Club. It is not an employer in legal terms.

    A Club has a right to discriminate, an employer does not.
    Redacted.

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    Demanding memners avoid relationships with an other Christian group is extremist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by st333ve View Post
    Demanding memners avoid relationships with an other Christian group is extremist.
    What has that to do with the remarkably stupid OP which claimed the OO was breaking the law ?

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