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Thread: Why does the 3rd and subsequent child get 37 more than the 1st and 2nd?

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    Default Why does the 3rd and subsequent child get 37 more than the 1st and 2nd?

    Why does the 3rd and subsequent child get 37 more than the 1st and 2nd children in Children's allowance payments?

    One would have thought that an economy of scale would apply with increasing numbers, subject to the obvious fact the parents income is fixed.

    The principal cost of children for working parents is Childcare. Some one with 6 kids are much more likely to be able to afford to be a home maker than some one with two kids?

    Child Benefit-Information from CitizensInformation.ie

    Why are children of multiple births paid additional grants past infancy?

    (In addition, a special 'once-off' grant of 635 is paid on all multiple births. Further 'once-off' grants of 635 are paid when the children are 4 years of age and 12 years of age.)

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    'cos after 2 you've run out of hands !!

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    The hand-me-downs are worn out and children's fashions change regularly.

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    Default By why more for the third and subsequent child?

    By why more for the third and subsequent child?

    Why not the same for all

    Why the additional payment for multiple births

    "The rate of child benefit paid for twins will be 1.5 times the normal monthly rate for each child. Where the multiple birth involves three or more children, the rate of benefit paid is double the monthly rate, provided at least three of the children remain qualified. "

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    There is no justification. It's a remnant of the big celtic tiger social welfare bonanza. There was money coming out of our ears and we couldn't give it away fast enough ...

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    I'd actually prefer to see 3rd etc be LESS than 1st and 2nd. Discourage large families. Stop f****g.

    Replacing yourselves (ie: 2) is a choice and instinct and I can accept the State supporting it no problem. After that its really (really) personal choice that you should be paying for yourself.

    State should consider free vasectomies and steralisation, to save a fortune in the long term from those willing to do it, but struggling to afford it.

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    Well we actually need to encourage people to have more children (penions crisis etc.) but that's another days issue...

    I would guess that the higher payment for 3rd and subsequent is something to do with standard of living for the family. Same way the thresholds for FIS get higher with each child.

    On multiples, here's some reasons for you: apart from the obvious that you can't plan that event and be financially sensible!

    You have more maternity leaves with single children- with the associated periods off work that you can take other children out of childcare so more scope for savings.

    You will have had breaks in between each of the three and so the childcare costs ramps up over a much longer period rather than hitting all at once for the twins.

    Childcare costs for two at the same time are shocking.

    The cost of living is higher- no reusing equipment and you may need bigger transport (most five seat cars will not actually accomodate more than two child seats in the back and yes it's a must if you want to get to work).

    I love how people love to attack Child Benefit. Hilarious when there are such bigger fish to fry.

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    Default We could learn form the Canadians who have a child tax credit circa $3000 pa

    We could learn form the Canadians who have a child tax credit circa $3000 pa

    They have a child allowance also about $100 per month

    Better to encourage work with tax relief than to discourage it with child allowances

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommythecommy View Post
    We could learn form the Canadians who have a child tax credit circa $3000 pa

    They have a child allowance also about $100 per month

    Better to encourage work with tax relief than to discourage it with child allowances
    Yes, tax credits for kids or childcare would be eminantly sensible to encourage at least one partner to work.

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    child benefit stops when the 'child' is 18 (or leaves f/t education) even though that child is fully dependent on you and cannot apply in own right for a college grant. this is inconsistent. I had three dependent children at one stage but no child benefit - one on leaving cert year plus 2 in college with no part-time jobs.

    The first child is the most expensive - set up costs, buggy etc - and may lead to the loss of one income. If benefit is to be different, then it should be more for the first.

    certainly no justification for more for the third.

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