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    It looks like the Dublin Metro project will go ahead on the basis that capital city airports must have prestigious rail links to the city centres for the sake of national pride,even if frequent airport coaches running on bus lanes would do.

    Given that Metro will go ahead,will the contract be at a fixed price or will it allow costs to spiral upwards on cost plus as happens on many public sector projects? In this regard,a key concern is wage determination. Will contractors and subcontractors be paying depressed market wages now prevalent in construction or will they be forced to pay artificial Celtic Tiger wages on redundant trade union contracts? Brian Cowen claims that lower construction costs will give better value for money on the government's reduced capital spending budget. Is he right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by patslatt View Post
    Will contractors and subcontractors be paying depressed market wages now prevalent in construction or will they be forced to pay artificial Celtic Tiger wages on redundant trade union contracts? Brian Cowen claims that lower construction costs will give better value for money on the government's reduced capital spending budget. Is he right?
    Maybe we should go back to GAMA rates of 2.20 an hour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patslatt View Post
    Will contractors and subcontractors be paying depressed market wages now prevalent in construction or will they be forced to pay artificial Celtic Tiger wages on redundant trade union contracts?
    It will be a long time before we see Tiger rates in the construction industry. Wage rates are the last thing we need to worry about when discussing White Elephants or any colour elephants for that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patslatt View Post
    It looks like the Dublin Metro project will go ahead on the basis that capital city airports must have prestigious rail links to the city centres for the sake of national pride,even if frequent airport coaches running on bus lanes would do.

    Given that Metro will go ahead,will the contract be at a fixed price or will it allow costs to spiral upwards on cost plus as happens on many public sector projects? In this regard,a key concern is wage determination. Will contractors and subcontractors be paying depressed market wages now prevalent in construction or will they be forced to pay artificial Celtic Tiger wages on redundant trade union contracts? Brian Cowen claims that lower construction costs will give better value for money on the government's reduced capital spending budget. Is he right?
    You still never answered the question as to whether or not you're a tax dodger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbysands81 View Post
    You still never answered the question as to whether or not you're a tax dodger?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    It will be a long time before we see Tiger rates in the construction industry. Wage rates are the last thing we need to worry about when discussing White Elephants or any colour elephants for that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbysands81 View Post
    You still never answered the question as to whether or not you're a tax dodger?
    That's called a leading question,as in "Do you beat up your wife/girlfriend?" Now a partly leading one for you,given that you use the name Bobby Sands:are you now or have you ever been a member of a physical force Irish nationalist movement?

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    The employees will be paid the trade union rates, but who knows what rates these will be for the duration of the building of the metro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by making waves View Post
    Maybe we should go back to GAMA rates of 2.20 an hour.
    That's the sort of profligacy that has this country banjaxed. In my day we worked for a bowl of gruel and brought our own bowl. The ones with families would pour half the bowl into the turn-ups of their trousers to bring it home for the kids. Damn glad of it we were too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    That's the sort of profligacy that has this country banjaxed. In my day we worked for a bowl of gruel and brought our own bowl. The ones with families would pour half the bowl into the turn-ups of their trousers to bring it home for the kids. Damn glad of it we were too.
    The choice is not between extremes of wages below minimum wages,and artificial Celtic Tiger wages which are only paid on very big unionised projects.

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