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    RTÉ News: Trapped Chilean miners in 'good health'

    Aside from the sheer amount of work required to get them out it will be a very interesting Psycological study over the time they are underground.

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    Very interesting story, Its going to take at least four months to get them out
    I saw on the news that they have not told them yet.
    I wonder will one of them crack.
    I don't recall anyone being trapped for that long before.

    In terms of a study they are doing a long-term isolation(500 days) study in moscow called mars-500 for a mission to mars.
    ESA - Mars500 - Mars500: study overview

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    Quote Originally Posted by Éireann go Brách View Post
    "He who is not a socialist at 19, has no heart. He who is still a socialist at 30, has no brain."
    Otto von Bismarck
    Off topic, I know, but I have to take issue with your signature.

    Was Bismarck not the guy who brought about the Franco-Prussian war, started the ball rolling for Prussian and German expansion and set the scene for the 1st world war?
    Not sure that I'd take anyone seriously who uses quotes from this pre-facist.
    Indeed, while he might have had a brain, he hardly put it to good use, did he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deirdrem View Post
    Off topic, I know, but I have to take issue with your signature.

    Was Bismarck not the guy who brought about the Franco-Prussian war, started the ball rolling for Prussian and German expansion and set the scene for the 1st world war?
    Not sure that I'd take anyone seriously who uses quotes from this pre-facist.
    Indeed, while he might have had a brain, he hardly put it to good use, did he?
    This could just as easily have been done using a private message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deirdrem View Post
    Off topic, I know, but I have to take issue with your signature.

    Was Bismarck not the guy who brought about the Franco-Prussian war, started the ball rolling for Prussian and German expansion and set the scene for the 1st world war?
    Not sure that I'd take anyone seriously who uses quotes from this pre-facist.
    Indeed, while he might have had a brain, he hardly put it to good use, did he?
    I thought it was Churchill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeDroit View Post
    I thought it was Churchill.
    Churchill never thought it was a good idea to be a socialist. Bismarck even less likely to have thought so. Shaw may have had a variation on it, but it is likely that the original version involved republicanism and not socialism , and came from Francois Guizot. The transition to the socialist version probably come through another french politician Georges Clemanceau who did in fact follow that trajectory.
    Re miners - good analysis here: sixs steps to survival

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    Odie, I'm sure their heads will be fairly wrecked after 4 months down in that hole. A psychologist or something on Newstalk this evening was saying they could have significant psychological problems. It's a dreadful affair but hopefully they can get them out.

    I don't undertand why the bigger bore hole is going to take 4 months when the small ones only took a few days. That's not making sense to me ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvotingMachine0197 View Post
    Odie, I'm sure their heads will be fairly wrecked after 4 months down in that hole. A psychologist or something on Newstalk this evening was saying they could have significant psychological problems. It's a dreadful affair but hopefully they can get them out.

    I don't undertand why the bigger bore hole is going to take 4 months when the small ones only took a few days. That's not making sense to me ..
    When Shackleton's expedition became stranded in the Antarctic it took over 3 months to rescue them. See Imperial Trans-Antarctic Expedition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. I don't see why there should be any great problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeGaulle 2.0 View Post
    When Shackleton's expedition became stranded in the Antarctic it took over 3 months to rescue them. See Imperial Trans-Antarctic Expedition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. I don't see why there should be any great problems.


    You don't, don't you ? Shackelton's crew were living on beach, albeit a rather cold one.
    Granted they didn't know whether they would ever be rescued. The unfortunate miners are down a great big hole in a very confined space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvotingMachine0197 View Post
    Odie, I'm sure their heads will be fairly wrecked after 4 months down in that hole. A psychologist or something on Newstalk this evening was saying they could have significant psychological problems. It's a dreadful affair but hopefully they can get them out.

    I don't undertand why the bigger bore hole is going to take 4 months when the small ones only took a few days. That's not making sense to me ..
    Think its easier to drill a small bore hole of 8 cms but for an individual it would have to be many times that size plus in addition you would need to ensure that when you start pulling them they would keep coming rather than blocking the hole.

    Good news is they have electricity and lots of space to move around which will help them.

    I doubt it will take 4 months for a number of reasons
    1.) People assume a standard of what they can do in a normal day
    2.) People have a target to aim for knowing what will be the result

    Its quite likely that those colleagues and others will be on a 24/7 shift running flat out to get to them and every mine organsiation that can get equipment there will be doing so.

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