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    The need for a total separation of the church from the state has long been argued for by socialists and the Socialist Party. Recent developments, both in Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland but also internationally, have put this issue centre stage in political debate. Socialistparty.net argues that the separation of church and state is long overdue.

    Society has dramatically changed in the last 20 or 30 years and organised religion no longer has the same control over people.

    The scandals that have rocked the Roman Catholic Church around the world have undermined the power and control of that institution. Religion no longer plays as dominant a role in society as in the past. Many people who are believers tend to make their own choices on private matters, such as divorce, contraception and so on.

    However it would be a mistake to underestimate the control that the organised churches have on this island. Religion and the state are still intertwined and the influence of the church is strong.

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    Excellent article.

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    100% separation....im sick of all of them...
    people who know nothing about life lecturing those whose lives are hard enough without these feckers buttin' in....
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    I totally support your noble aspirations , making waves.

    And you're right - the bustards haven't gone away !

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    Where are our politicans gone, cowering cowardly under the bedsheets, one wonders?


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    Quote Originally Posted by making waves View Post
    The need for a total separation of the church from the state has long been argued for by socialists and the Socialist Party. Recent developments, both in Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland but also internationally, have put this issue centre stage in political debate. Socialistparty.net argues that the separation of church and state is long overdue.

    Society has dramatically changed in the last 20 or 30 years and organised religion no longer has the same control over people.

    The scandals that have rocked the Roman Catholic Church around the world have undermined the power and control of that institution. Religion no longer plays as dominant a role in society as in the past. Many people who are believers tend to make their own choices on private matters, such as divorce, contraception and so on.

    AMEN TO THAT...

    However it would be a mistake to underestimate the control that the organised churches have on this island. Religion and the state are still intertwined and the influence of the church is strong.

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    It's a must for any self respecting Republic.
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    Damn right. Thats the way to go. The less influence the mumbo jumbo mob have the better.

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    All a pipe-dream in this country. Too many sheep.
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    Newsflash - separation of the church from the state happened at least 20 years ago.

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