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    After the John O'Donogue expenses fiasco in 2009, and prior to the St. Patrick's Day travel this year, Brian Cowen stood up in the Dáil and said that travel expenses should be reduced. Luxury limousines should not be used unless absolutely necessary. Yet here we see the hollowness of those words in his parallel universe. In addition it turns out our Embassy staff are living the high life despite severe cutbacks back home.

    It's time for Cowen to set an example and end this hypocritical ostentatiousness. He's the Government leader of a tiny island nation that is practically bankrupt. He's not the King of Saudi Arabia with a massive surplus of cash. In addition the Department of Foreign Affairs needs to have a serious word with all 'our excellencies' in embassies and consulates abroad and tell them to get a grip. A serious review of the cost benefits of some of our embassies/consulates abroad needs to be undertaken.

    The full cost of the Taoiseach's visit to America for St Patrick's Day has also become clear with bills still arriving. A €140.96 porterage charge for "moving the luggage" at the Hilton Hotel in Chicago was not billed until early last month [...]

    Limousine charges in the Windy City came to €2,622, according to the Department of the Taoiseach [...]

    From Chicago, the Taoiseach and his entourage moved on to the Four Seasons Hotel in San Francisco where Cowen's room cost €264. Another bill for €3,999 was also run up in California, charged by Carey International Car Hire, who provided luxury transport [...]

    The days of costly hotel room charges also appear to have made a comeback with €500 paid for a single night at the Radisson Blu Royal Hotel in Brussels later in March. A banquet room was also hired at the same hotel for €300 [...] Even though Cowen was only in the Belgian capital for a single day, he still managed to run up a car hire cost of €1,315 [...]

    Another €1,300 was also spent on accommodation at the luxury hotel for the delegation and for the Taoiseach's private secretary. Limousine costs for that that trip were paid for in May of this year and came to €3,993 through Admiral Car Hire in Washington DC.
    Sunday Tribune 15th August 2010: Taoiseach's travel costs over €35,000 (excluding Government jet costs)

    As for our embassies, in a separate article the Tribune reports:

    Irish embassy staff are living it large and running up massive bills on everything from lavish meals in top restaurants to furniture from upmarket stores.

    Hundreds of thousands of euro have been charged to government-issued credit cards by our men in Havana, and elsewhere. Meals costing over €2,000, NBA basketball tickets, wine at off-licences, home furnishings, pictures and congestion charges were all paid for by credit cards, with the bill inevitably picked up by the taxpayer. [...]

    Another frequent addition to the credit-card bill was Binny's Beverage Depot, an upmarket Chicago off-licence, where the bill in June 2008 was $1,876 (€1,443).

    October of that year also proved costly, with a $5,018 (€3,860) bill charged to the card, which included a $2,485 (€1,911) tab at Antoine's Restaurant in New Orleans.

    Also charged to a separate card that month was the purchase of a sofa for $1,600 (€1,230).

    Two days in Houston in November 2008 came with a price tag of more than $4,000 (€3,076), which included a $2,064 (€1,587) bill at the swish Pesces restaurant. [...]

    In September 2008, one of the largest charges of all was made for $5,380 (€4,137) at Polo New York, the famous clothing store.

    In Paris, details of payments for 2009 have only been made available, with €10,673 spent, more than half of which went on home furnishings.
    Sunday Tribune 15th August 2010: There are some things money can't buy. For everything else, there's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsAnneThrope View Post
    After the John O'Donogue expenses fiasco in 2009, and prior to the St. Patrick's Day travel this year, Brian Cowen stood up in the Dáil and said that travel expenses should be reduced. Luxury limousines should not be used unless absolutely necessary. Yet here we see the hollowness of those words in his parallel universe. In addition it turns out our Embassy staff are living the high life despite severe cutbacks back home.

    It's time for Cowen to set an example and end this hypocritical ostentatiousness. He's the Government leader of a tiny island nation that is practically bankrupt. He's not the King of Saudi Arabia with a massive surplus of cash. In addition the Department of Foreign Affairs needs to have a serious word with all 'our excellencies' in embassies and consulates abroad and tell them to get a grip. A serious review of the cost benefits of some of our embassies/consulates abroad needs to be undertaken.



    Sunday Tribune 15th August 2010: Taoiseach's travel costs over €35,000 (excluding Government jet costs)

    As for our embassies, in a separate article the Tribune reports:



    [B]Sunday Tribune 15th August 2010: There are some things money can't buy. For everything else, there's...[/B



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    I wonder why Carey International Car Hire are good enough to use in the States but not in England.

    Do Cartel offer a better or more economical service in the UK, or is it just that Cartel was set up by a FFer and there is a system in place.

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    When did Biffo every make a hard decision MsAnneThrope?
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    pat carey int.car hire???????????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by mary hinge View Post
    pat carey int.car hire???????????????
    they appear legit

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    I don't know why when our politicans go abroad, that they can't stay at our embassies. Its not like we house our Ambassadors in bedsits with one bedroom.

    Secondly, I hear it alot by top civil servants that our foreign staff 'need' special allowances to 'look the part' and to present a certain image. Thats a load of bull, why can't we not made it a requirment of our foreign staff to dress well, when supermarkets spend home staff if they are unshaven and untidy. Ryanair penalises it's staff if they have a broken nail or a hair out of place. Our Foreign service could likewise demand that a certain image needs to be projected and if you don't like it, no foreign assigments. Its time we stop giving allowances to people to do the job they are paid to do.

    And its not like these allowances are effective, I saw a picture of a senior civil servant recently in Brussels with his shirt collar pulled back, and on another occasion, someone from the perm rep office had the baggy pair of trousers not even a schoolboy would be let away with. You can take the man from the bog, but no amount of allowances and credit card expense accounts will take the bog from the man. One way around it, hire people that are not going to show the country up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpc View Post
    When did Biffo every make a hard decision MsAnneThrope?
    I think fighting the holding of by-elections, using taxpayers' cash, is a hard decision. Give the man some credit
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpc View Post
    When did Biffo every make a hard decision MsAnneThrope?

    I'd say that the toughest decision that the BIFF has had to make in his 26 years of sucking at the taxpayers' teat, boozing in the Dail bar and doing SFA for his country was when he decided that perjuring a Sinn Fein councillor wasn't a sackable offence for one of his Ministers.

    As the BIFF is (nominally) a solicitor and an officer of the court, I'd say that this tough decision caused him hours of restless tossing and turning on his double-strength mattress before he concluded that such unethical behaviour was OK with him.
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    The waste isn't limited to foreign trips it would appear, and Dempsey's recent faux pas seems to be the tip of the iceberg. The Independent is reporting today that TDs are using the Government jets "like taxis" for domestic travel.

    GOVERNMENT jets are being used to collect and drop ministers at locations convenient to their homes -- at additional cost to the taxpayer. [...]

    Ministers who have chauffeur-driven cars often board at Baldonnel and are picked up later at an airport closer to home after their garda driver has made the journey by road.

    According to documents from the Department of Defence, obtained by the Irish Independent, the Gulfstream jet has landed in Cork eight times this year to facilitate Foreign Affairs Minister Micheal Martin and once for Enterprise Minister Batt O'Keeffe.

    The Learjet has landed four times in Cork to facilitate Mr Martin and twice in Derry for Tanaiste Mary Coughlan.

    This year's use of local airports was similar to last year when the Gulfstream landed six times and the Learjet landed 11 times in Cork with Mr Martin on board.

    The Gulfstream landed twice and the Learjet landed four times at Knock with Ms Coughlan on board. Derry and Knock airports are closest to her home in Co Donegal. [...]

    Justice Minister Dermot Ahern was picked up in his home town of Dundalk by helicopter, before flying to Letterkenny. Tanaiste Mary Coughlan was collected at a Donegal GAA pitch to travel to the Phoenix Park.

    In all, there were 16 such helicopter flights last year, according to records provided by the Department of Defence.
    Irish Independent 16th August 2010: Ministers 'using government jets like taxis' for local trips

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    if there is one dept that could slash their expenditure and not affect the man on the street its this one. its a 19thC hangover. With modern communications I cant see the point of them. A call centre here and some contracted out services if needs be.

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