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    When libertarians talk about liberty they mean property rights and other freedoms can easily be sacraficed by them in order to protect those (LewRockwell the main libertarian website features a columnist who openly boasts about his volunteering from the USA for the "Rhodesian" Army and of course Gary North who wants the death penalty for adultery)....Here is the admiration of the main theorist of the "Austrian" school on fascism..."Enjoy"...

    "It cannot be denied that Fascism and similar movements aiming at the establishment of dictatorships are full of the best intentions and that their intervention has, for the moment, saved European civilization. The merit that Fascism has thereby won for itself will live on eternally in history...."

    Mises and the “Merit” of Fascism sans everything

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    I really dont see any logic to the theories of Von Mises. It seems to be based on some kind of distributist ideas, but he doesnt talk, as far as I know, about how you would get from the current position of corporate monopoly to a system of small producers and something near perfect competition. How will the monopolies be broken up? Will their resources and lands be taken off them by force and distributed to the people? How else could these small producers emerge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cael View Post
    I really dont see any logic to the theories of Von Mises. It seems to be based on some kind of distributist ideas, but he doesnt talk, as far as I know, about how you would get from the current position of corporate monopoly to a system of small producers and something near perfect competition. How will the monopolies be broken up? Will their resources and lands be taken off them by force and distributed to the people? How else could these small producers emerge?
    Actually they regard Distributism as a form of socialism.

    What's Wrong with "Distributism" - Thomas E. Woods, Jr. - Mises Daily

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    Quote Originally Posted by SevenStars View Post
    When libertarians talk about liberty they mean property rights and other freedoms can easily be sacraficed by them in order to protect those (LewRockwell the main libertarian website features a columnist who openly boasts about his volunteering from the USA for the "Rhodesian" Army and of course Gary North who wants the death penalty for adultery)....Here is the admiration of the main theorist of the "Austrian" school on fascism..."Enjoy"...

    "It cannot be denied that Fascism and similar movements aiming at the establishment of dictatorships are full of the best intentions and that their intervention has, for the moment, saved European civilization. The merit that Fascism has thereby won for itself will live on eternally in history...."

    Mises and the “Merit” of Fascism sans everything
    Nice propaganda there. The feudal elite would be pleased with you.

    This unknown credentialless blogger you linked failed to mention that Ludwig Von Mises had to leave Europe in fear of his life from Fascism and Nazism in 1940 and move to America.

    Also fails to mention that himself and Rothbard were also anti Zionist and anti corporate - state which is also a form of Fascism.

    Support for Pinochet?

    Can you provide links for that? I can show you plenty were the Von Mises institute has written lots of papers with criticism and indeed contempt for Friedman and the Chicago School.
    “The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design.” - Friedrich A. Hayek

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    Quote Originally Posted by SevenStars View Post
    Actually they regard Distributism as a form of socialism.

    What's Wrong with "Distributism" - Thomas E. Woods, Jr. - Mises Daily
    So, then the question is even more stark. How does Von Mises and his followers see the corporate monopolies being broken up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra Syndrome View Post
    This unknown credentialless blogger you linked failed to mention that Ludwig Von Mises had to leave Europe in fear of his life from Fascism and Nazism in 1940 and move to America.
    This ignores the fact that someone Jewish in 1930s Europe could well have been sympathetic to Fascism, but knew that Hitler's version of Fascism involved murdering them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanclub View Post
    This ignores the fact that someone Jewish in 1930s Europe could well have been sympathetic to Fascism, but knew that Hitler's version of Fascism involved murdering them.

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    The Rothschild family knew that, but still funded the rise of the Nazi Party through their company I.G. Farben.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanclub View Post
    This ignores the fact that someone Jewish in 1930s Europe could well have been sympathetic to Fascism, but knew that Hitler's version of Fascism involved murdering them.

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    Actually we are talking about Mussolini who had many jewish admirers and supporters from the beginning of his movement and up to the time when he finally made an alliance with Hitler (remember that they were enemies for a good period, and that Hitler overthrew a fascist regieme allied with Italy when he invade Austria).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cael View Post
    So, then the question is even more stark. How does Von Mises and his followers see the corporate monopolies being broken up?
    I sort of agree with you (shockingly), I do believe that one of the problems with the current version of capitalism is that the corporates get too large and effectively become monopolies. And any type of monopoly (public or private) is bad news. They make bad decisions, waste money and become detached from the market they are supposed to serve. The people at the top are ridiculously overpaid and they too become detached from the real world.

    Small businesses can set up and flourish but once they become even a tiny threat to the big corporates they get bought out - good news for the owners of the small businesses, not good news for the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cael View Post
    So, then the question is even more stark. How does Von Mises and his followers see the corporate monopolies being broken up?
    Through "freeing the market" would you believe?

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