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    Default Gender Quotas in politics...Right or Wrong

    Interesting article in the Irish Times today concerning the introduction of gender quotas within our political system..... The question is, Does Gender Quotas need to be introduced? Or leave well enough alone? Will the introduction of gender quotas damage or somehow undermine female politicians? Is a person to be selected by their party based on gender and not ability and merit....

    I know from my own party meetings in Dublin South that 75% of the turnout is generally male, we have one sitting TD who is male, two Senators both are female and one female out of four Councillors... so out of seven elected politicians, females represent 43%.....

    In the Dáil there are 166 TD's 21 are female (13%) while in the Seanad there are 60 Senators 11 female ( 19%)

    In the four Local Authorities in the Dublin region the following percentage of overall Councillors Gender, Dublin City Council Male 67% Female 33%, DLRCOCO Male 70% Female 30%, Fingal Co.Co. Male 65% Female 35% and South Dublin Co.Co. Male 76% Female 24%.....

    To breakdown DLRCOCO more, in the 2009 Local Elections there were 61 candidates up for election, 44 male (72%), 17 female (28%) ... 20 of the 44 males were elected, 8 of the 17 females were elected....

    So on balance the percentage shows that just under 50% of each gender put forward to local election get elected at local level.....

    The main issue is at national level, but is this a reflection on the percentage of females who participate within political parties at grassroot levels.....??





    http:Gender quotas end up perverting democratic choice - The Irish Times - Thu, Aug 12, 2010

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    Wrong.

    There are no black politicians in the Dail? Should we have a quota for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grafter1 View Post
    Wrong.

    There are no black politicians in the Dail? Should we have a quota for that?
    I completely agree with you on that fact..... which brings me back to the point that regardless of a persons background, gender or Race.... to participate you must be first involved??

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    "Positive" and "Discrimination" are two words that are not reconcilable!

    Besides, there seems to be more women than men active in the youth wings at present. The same can be said for politics related courses at third-level. The next generation will see a significant re-balancing in terms of female participation.

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    identity politics are a load of cack.

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    One person one vote thats democracy. One person one vote but you can only elect who we say you can select is not democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boggle View Post
    One person one vote thats democracy. One person one vote but you can only elect who we say you can select is not democracy.
    Seems to be how party politics works though.

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    Surely in order for more women to become elected more women would have to want to run in the first place?

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    No, I'm completely against it. Sarah Carey is pretty much bang on in the IT article. To be honest, I'm not sure why the issue appears to be getting so much coverage in the media as there is very little support for the idea amongst either the political body or people in general.

    However facilitating women's participation ought to be looked at, especially in terms of whether the demands of representative work could be better tailored to encourage more women to participate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boggle View Post
    One person one vote thats democracy. One person one vote but you can only elect who we say you can select is not democracy.
    What's the alternative? There has to be a filtering process at some level prior to polling day. The electorate aren't going to digest the views and proposals of hundreds of candidates, not least due to apathy but also the logistics of such a task?

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