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    Holland has the lowest overdose rate for hard drugs in Europe and is 80% lower than the US simply because cannabis is decriminalized.

    Cannabis can help cancer patients and other types of patients with their appetite and pain without destroying their liver and kidneys.

    167 million people are estimated to use cannabis regularly in the western world.

    What does that tell you?

    And to clarify for those who posted after this OP about mental issues relating to cannabis...

    According to a new report by a British government advisory body, the regular use of cannabis though it can have real and significant mental health effects it is unlikely to cause schizophrenia.
    Cannabis use does not cause schizophrenia -Schizophrenia News-

    A British study has cast doubt on the supposed link between cannabis use and schizophrenia, but at least one Australian researcher says the study needs more evidence.

    Previous research has suggested cannabis use increases the risk of being diagnosed with either psychosis or schizophrenia.

    This latest study, led by Dr. Martin Frisher of Keele University, examined the records of 600,000 patients aged between 16 and 44, but failed to find a similar link.
    CBC News - Health - Doubt cast on cannabis, schizophrenia link

    Researchers say the results also suggest that among those likely to develop the disease, those who use marijuana may get the disease earlier in life than those who don't.

    The findings don't prove that smoking marijuana causes schizophrenia, and the study only looked at people who already had the disease. But, "smoking marijuana may have hastened whatever process was going to happen anyway," Daniel Foti, a PhD student at Stony Brook University on New York's Long Island and the lead author on the study, told Reuters Health.
    In schizophrenia, MDs should target pot use: study | Reuters

    Regular readers will recall the confused mess that is this government’s cannabis policy. There has been a drop in cannabis consumption since it was downgraded from Class B to C, but nevertheless they want to put it back up to Class B again. Yes, we know all about the argument that what you ingest is entirely your business, it being your body and all that but morals are always trumped by politics.
    Study clears cannabis of schizophrenia rap

    However, at this time, it is not clear whether marijuana use causes mental problems, exacerbates them, or is used in attempt to self-medicate symptoms already in existence.
    Marijuana - InfoFacts - NIDA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakeupcall View Post
    Holland has the lowest overdose rate for hard drugs in Europe and is 80% lower than the US simply because cannabis is decriminalized.

    Cannabis can help cancer patients and other types of patients with their appetite and pain without destroying their liver and kidneys.

    167 million people are estimated to use cannabis regularly in the western world.

    What does that tell you?
    That we are ruled by self righteous idiots?

    There is no reason for cannabis to be illegal so all that remains is pigheadedness amongst our political betters.

    (Sparks up a smoke and goes back to work....)

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    But how will we fill up the prisons when it is legalized?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakeupcall View Post
    Holland has the lowest overdose rate for hard drugs in Europe and is 80% lower than the US simply because cannabis is decriminalized.
    How do you work that out ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakeupcall View Post
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    167 million people are estimated to use cannabis regularly in the western world.

    What does that tell you?
    That there are a lot of unhappy people in the world. legalizing their drug of choice won't alleviate the systemic need for escape, it will merely legitimize certain peoples behavior.

    Opiates could possibly be legalized and licensed to those afflicted with chronic addiction to heroin, and free needles provided.(methadone seems to be a useless crutch for some) to alleviate addiction driven crime.

    legalizing a powerful psychoactive drug, for open use, will never, and should never happen, or if you disagree, visit a psych ward and see for yourself the detrimental effects THC causes.
    Condemnant quod non intellegunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boggle View Post

    all that remains is pigheadedness amongst our political betters.
    Brian Cowen isnt pigheaded, he just looks like a pig.

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    Legalising cannabis freed up police resources to tackle actual crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiogenes View Post
    legalizing a powerful psychoactive drug, for open use, will never, and should never happen, or if you disagree, visit a psych ward and see for yourself the detrimental effects THC causes.
    How will we pick them out from the thousands which go that way through drink?

    Anyway, there is no evidence that cannabis put them there as the only evidence which exists shows a correlation but not a causation. What that means, in laymans, is that if your nuts you may try cannabis as it can feel like it helps a little or for a while at least. It doesn't however and without the proper treatment these people end up in the psyche ward regardless.
    The fact that they smoked cannabis along the way is neither here nor there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goban Saor View Post
    Legalising cannabis freed up police resources to tackle actual crimes.
    Where ?

    (Please don't say Amsterdam......because it is not legal, it is tolerated in restricted area's with strict control )

    It will never be legal, but under a certain amount it should of course, be decriminalized.
    Condemnant quod non intellegunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toblakai View Post
    Brian Cowen isnt pigheaded, he just looks like a pig.
    There is no response to that.... except maybe:mrgreen:

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