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    A few recent threads have been about localism, and it struck me one indicator of interest is the extent to which TDs represent constituencies in counties other than their place of birth. By the wonders of google and wikipedia, I've tried to identify the birthplaces of TDs elected in 2007. At this stage, I'm more interested in hearing if I've any of them down wrong, and if anyone can fill in some of the ones where I could find no information.

    I'd say few surprises in this early cut of the data. A fair number of TDs representing Dublin and surrounding constituencies come from elsewhere. As much as anything, that might just reflect folk migrating to Dublin and becoming active in a party as a means of socialisation. I'd say it likely doesn't have much impact on their political behaviour (with the possible exception of Aine Brady. But it may contribute to the lack of any real 'Dublin' lobby in Irish politics, and explain an amount of the bias towards the regions in political debate.

    I suppose the other question folk might be interested in is which counties are the most 'incestuous'. The areas with no non-native TDs seem to be Clare, Cork, Donegal, Kerry, Longford-Westmeath, Mayo, Waterford and Wexford - although I don't have information on all Cork TDs.

    The (rather lengthy) table is below. Any corrections would be most welcome.

    Constituency TD Place of Birth Party
    Carlow–Kilkenny Bobby Aylward Kilkenny Fianna Fáil
    Carlow–Kilkenny Phil Hogan Kilkenny Fine Gael
    Carlow–Kilkenny John McGuinness Kilkenny Fianna Fáil
    Carlow–Kilkenny M. J. Nolan Carlow Fianna Fáil
    Carlow–Kilkenny Mary White Wicklow Green Party
    Cavan–Monaghan Margaret Conlon ? Fianna Fáil
    Cavan–Monaghan Seymour Crawford Monaghan Fine Gael
    Cavan–Monaghan Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin Monaghan Sinn Féin
    Cavan–Monaghan Rory O'Hanlon Dublin Ceann Comhairle
    Cavan–Monaghan Brendan Smith Cavan Fianna Fáil
    Clare Pat Breen Clare Fine Gael
    Clare Joe Carey Clare Fine Gael
    Clare Timmy Dooley Clare Fianna Fáil
    Clare Tony Killeen Clare Fianna Fáil
    Cork East Michael Ahern Cork Fianna Fáil
    Cork East Ned O'Keeffe Cork Fianna Fáil
    Cork East Seán Sherlock Cork Labour Party
    Cork East David Stanton Cork Fine Gael
    Cork North Central Bernard Allen Cork Fine Gael
    Cork North Central Billy Kelleher Cork Fianna Fáil
    Cork North Central Kathleen Lynch Cork Labour Party
    Cork North Central Noel O'Flynn Cork Fianna Fáil
    Cork North West Michael Creed Cork Fine Gael
    Cork North West Michael Moynihan Cork Fianna Fáil
    Cork North West Batt O'Keeffe Cork Fianna Fáil
    Cork South Central Deirdre Clune Cork Fine Gael
    Cork South Central Simon Coveney Cork Fine Gael
    Cork South Central Ciarán Lynch Cork Labour Party
    Cork South Central Micheál Martin Cork Fianna Fáil
    Cork South Central Michael McGrath ? Fianna Fáil
    Cork South West Jim O'Keeffe Cork Fine Gael
    Cork South West Christy O'Sullivan Cork Fianna Fáil
    Cork South West P. J. Sheehan ? Fine Gael
    Donegal North East Joe McHugh Donegal Fine Gael
    Donegal North East Jim McDaid Donegal Fianna Fáil
    Donegal North East Niall Blaney Donegal Fianna Fáil
    Donegal South West Mary Coughlan Donegal Fianna Fáil
    Donegal South West Pat "the Cope" Gallagher Donegal Fianna Fáil
    Donegal South West Dinny McGinley Donegal Fine Gael
    Dublin Central Bertie Ahern Dublin Fianna Fáil
    Dublin Central Tony Gregory Dublin Independent
    Dublin Central Joe Costello Sligo Labour Party
    Dublin Central Cyprian Brady ? Fianna Fáil
    Dublin Mid West John Curran Dublin Fianna Fáil
    Dublin Mid West Paul Gogarty Westmeath Green Party
    Dublin Mid West Mary Harney Galway Progressive Democrats
    Dublin Mid West Joanna Tuffy England Labour Party
    Dublin North Michael Kennedy Wicklow Fianna Fáil
    Dublin North Darragh O'Brien Dublin Fianna Fáil
    Dublin North James Reilly ? Fine Gael
    Dublin North Trevor Sargent ? Green Party
    Dublin North Central Richard Bruton Dublin Fine Gael
    Dublin North Central Seán Haughey Dublin Fianna Fáil
    Dublin North Central Finian McGrath Galway Independent
    Dublin North East Tommy Broughan Dublin Labour Party
    Dublin North East Terence Flanagan ? Fine Gael
    Dublin North East Michael Woods Wicklow Fianna Fáil
    Dublin North West Noel Ahern Dublin Fianna Fáil
    Dublin North West Pat Carey Kerry Fianna Fáil
    Dublin North West Róisín Shortall Dublin Labour Party
    Dublin South Séamus Brennan Galway Fianna Fáil
    Dublin South Tom Kitt Galway Fianna Fáil
    Dublin South Olivia Mitchell Offaly Fine Gael
    Dublin South Eamon Ryan Dublin Green Party
    Dublin South Alan Shatter Dublin Fine Gael
    Dublin South Central Seán Ardagh Dublin Fianna Fáil
    Dublin South Central Catherine Byrne Dublin Fine Gael
    Dublin South Central Michael Mulcahy ? Fianna Fáil
    Dublin South Central Aengus Ó Snodaigh Dublin Sinn Féin
    Dublin South Central Mary Upton Clare Labour Party
    Dublin South East Chris Andrews ? Fianna Fáil
    Dublin South East Lucinda Creighton Mayo Fine Gael
    Dublin South East John Gormley Dublin Green Party
    Dublin South East Ruairi Quinn Dublin Labour Party
    Dublin South West Brian Hayes Dublin Fine Gael
    Dublin South West Conor Lenihan Dublin Fianna Fáil
    Dublin South West Charlie O'Connor Dublin Fianna Fáil
    Dublin South West Pat Rabbitte Mayo Labour Party
    Dublin West Joan Burton Dublin Labour Party
    Dublin West Brian Lenihan Dublin Fianna Fáil
    Dublin West Leo Varadkar Dublin Fine Gael
    Dún Laoghaire Barry Andrews Dublin Fianna Fáil
    Dún Laoghaire Seán Barrett Dublin Fine Gael
    Dún Laoghaire Ciarán Cuffe Dublin Green Party
    Dún Laoghaire Eamon Gilmore Galway Labour Party
    Dún Laoghaire Mary Hanafin Tipperary Fianna Fáil
    Galway East Paul Connaughton Galway Fine Gael
    Galway East Michael Kitt Galway Fianna Fáil
    Galway East Ulick Burke Galway Fine Gael
    Galway East Noel Treacy Galway Fianna Fáil
    Galway West Frank Fahey Galway Fianna Fáil
    Galway West Noel Grealish ? Progressive Democrats
    Galway West Michael D. Higgins Limerick Labour Party
    Galway West Pádraic McCormack Longford Fine Gael
    Galway West Éamon Ó Cuív Dublin Fianna Fáil
    Kerry North Jimmy Deenihan Kerry Fine Gael
    Kerry North Martin Ferris Kerry Sinn Féin
    Kerry North Tom McEllistrim Kerry Fianna Fáil
    Kerry South John O'Donoghue Kerry Fianna Fáil
    Kerry South Tom Sheahan Kerry Fine Gael
    Kerry South Jackie Healy-Rae Kerry Independent
    Kildare North Áine Brady Galway Fianna Fáil
    Kildare North Bernard Durkan Mayo Fine Gael
    Kildare North Michael Fitzpatrick Cavan Fianna Fáil
    Kildare North Emmet Stagg Mayo Labour Party
    Kildare South Seán Ó Fearghaíl Kildare Fianna Fáil
    Kildare South Seán Power Kildare Fianna Fáil
    Kildare South Jack Wall Kildare Labour Party
    Laois–Offaly Brian Cowen Offaly Fianna Fáil
    Laois–Offaly Olwyn Enright Offaly Fine Gael
    Laois–Offaly Charles Flanagan Laois Fine Gael
    Laois–Offaly Seán Fleming ? Fianna Fáil
    Laois–Offaly John Moloney ? Fianna Fáil
    Limerick East Michael Noonan Limerick Fine Gael
    Limerick East Willie O'Dea Limerick Fianna Fáil
    Limerick East Kieran O'Donnell ? Fine Gael
    Limerick East Jan O'Sullivan Clare Labour Party
    Limerick East Peter Power Limerick Fianna Fáil
    Limerick West Niall Collins ? Fianna Fáil
    Limerick West John Cregan Limerick Fianna Fáil
    Limerick West Dan Neville ? Fine Gael
    Longford–Westmeath James Bannon Longford Fine Gael
    Longford–Westmeath Peter Kelly Westmeath Fianna Fáil
    Longford–Westmeath Mary O'Rourke Westmeath Fianna Fáil
    Longford–Westmeath Willie Penrose Westmeath Labour Party
    Louth Dermot Ahern Louth Fianna Fáil
    Louth Séamus Kirk Louth Fianna Fáil
    Louth Arthur Morgan Louth Sinn Féin
    Louth Fergus O'Dowd Tipperary Fine Gael
    Mayo Enda Kenny Mayo Fine Gael
    Mayo Michael Ring Mayo Fine Gael
    Mayo John O'Mahony Mayo Fine Gael
    Mayo Dara Calleary Mayo Fianna Fáil
    Mayo Beverley Flynn Mayo Independent
    Meath East Mary Wallace Dublin Fianna Fáil
    Meath East Shane McEntee Meath Fine Gael
    Meath East Thomas Byrne ? Fianna Fáil
    Meath West Johnny Brady ? Fianna Fáil
    Meath West Noel Dempsey Meath Fianna Fáil
    Meath West Damien English Meath Fine Gael
    Roscommon–South Leitrim Frank Feighan ? Fine Gael
    Roscommon–South Leitrim Michael Finneran Roscommon Fianna Fáil
    Roscommon–South Leitrim Denis Naughten Roscommon Fine Gael
    Sligo–North Leitrim Jimmy Devins ? Fianna Fáil
    Sligo–North Leitrim John Perry Sligo Fine Gael
    Sligo–North Leitrim Eamon Scanlon Sligo Fianna Fáil
    Tipperary North Michael Lowry Tipperary Independent
    Tipperary North Máire Hoctor Tipperary Fianna Fáil
    Tipperary North Noel Coonan Tipperary Fine Gael
    Tipperary South Tom Hayes Tipperary Fine Gael
    Tipperary South Mattie McGrath Tipperary Fianna Fáil
    Tipperary South Martin Mansergh England Fianna Fáil
    Waterford Martin Cullen Waterford Fianna Fáil
    Waterford John Deasy Waterford Fine Gael
    Waterford Brendan Kenneally Waterford Fianna Fáil
    Waterford Brian O'Shea Waterford Labour Party
    Wexford John Browne Wexford Fianna Fáil
    Wexford Seán Connick Wexford Fianna Fáil
    Wexford Michael W. D'Arcy Wexford Fine Gael
    Wexford Paul Kehoe Wexford Fine Gael
    Wexford Brendan Howlin Wexford Labour Party
    Wicklow Joe Behan ? Fianna Fáil
    Wicklow Andrew Doyle ? Fine Gael
    Wicklow Liz McManus Canada Labour Party
    Wicklow Dick Roche Wexford Fianna Fáil
    Wicklow Billy Timmins Wicklow Fine Gael
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    Seán Fleming is from Laois.
    Thomas Byrne is from Meath or Louth, nearly sure it's Meath.
    Almost 100% sure Cyp Brady is a Dub.

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    All of the Roscommon, Mayo & Sligo TDs are native to the respective counties I believe

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungLiberal View Post
    Almost 100% sure Cyp Brady is a Dub.
    Yep - I recall his brother, motor-mouth Royston, going on about his East Wall childhood in those halcyon days when he was running for Europe and was one of Bertie's best buddies!
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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungLiberal View Post
    Seán Fleming is from Laois.
    Thomas Byrne is from Meath or Louth, nearly sure it's Meath.
    Almost 100% sure Cyp Brady is a Dub.
    Think you're right re Seán Fleming - Castletown, Laois.
    John Moloney is Mountmellick - with a pub and undertaker's business owned by his late father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kate P View Post
    Think you're right re Seán Fleming - Castletown, Laois.
    John Moloney is Mountmellick - with a pub and undertaker's business owned by his late father.
    Smashing. The pub and the undertaker. That's pretty much a town sewn up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flavirostris View Post
    All of the Roscommon, Mayo & Sligo TDs are native to the respective counties I believe
    Yes correct although I have a small question mark over Frank Feighan. His parents are from Tubbercurry in Sligo and he lives very close to the border currently, so I'm not 100% sure if he was born in Roscommon although he did spend most of his childhood there.

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    Liz McManus I believe, while yes she is form Canada, was brought up in Galway, though I can't be sure. In relation to PJ SHeahan (CSW) and Michael McGrath (CSC) I would wager both are from Cork, they both have common Cork names, and Sheahan is ancient.
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    I'm not trying to be critical, but I don't understand that point of the thread. If a T.D. was born in Galway but represents Dublin, because he lives & works there, what is the problem. Again, I am not trying to criticise, but what am I missing??
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